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        Subscribers: near 100!
                     

        1.Editorial
        2.Demonews
        3.Thought of the week
        4.Party on!
        5.Interview of the week
        6.Demo of the week
        7.Intro of the week
        8.MOD of the week
        9.Commercial break
        10.Homepages
        11.Quote of the week
        12.Charts
        13.Messages
        14.Demoscener (A-Z)
        15.Articles:
                Open Music Contests (reptile/astroidea)
                Dreamhack'98 report (steffo/cryonics)
                Dreamhack'98 report (melwyn/acid rain)
                Abort'98 invitation
                Satelite'98 results
        16.End


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        This newsletter is public property, that means anyone is free to send
articles, news and others for posting! I would appreciate it even. I'm only
putting the pieces together. It's our scene! let's make things happen...

        Hurray! Wasted 4 hours putting whole list to hotmail account!
Everything demojournal related goes to demojournal@hotmail.com now!

        A couple days later i ran across that nice guy szum/cryogen, i asked
him to take care of demojournal for a couple of issues. After i death
threatned him a couple of times he even accepted! The point is, i'm going away
for a couple weeks, i'm tired of all this shitty world and am taking a break.
Don't worry szum, i'll be back to take demojournal off your hands. Don't you
dare close it! Every demojournal mail should then be directed only to the
hotmail account, you'll have to pardon if szum doesn't reply to all mails
thanking for your stuff as i always do but his inet connection is a lot slower!
He'll waste a lot of time just getting stuff from hotmail and registing new
subscribers. Hopefully Behemot won't mail him 100k of data this week! ;)
I will still be reachable through ec97104@crazy.fe.up.pt and i hope
to get some mail's not demojournal related for a change! Anyone wanting to send
me their intros or tunes or gfx is welcome as i always encourage ppl to do so.
I always want to meet new people and their creations, don't be shy now!

        I'll use this small recess for indept meditation and judging of the
demojournal compo#2 entries! (read below)

        Well, enjoy the biggest issue of demojournal so far and see you all in
a couple of weeks! BTW: This time it was released on saturday night so that
szum has more time to get his act together!

                        Psychic Symphony


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Psychic:

        Textmode democompo is over: http://sauna.net/tmdc3/
        New useless player beeing finished! FreddyV back on buisness!


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Psychic 2:

        Adok/hugi is moving to china!
        a0a/green is renaming to z9z!
        sol/trauma disqualified all tmdc entrys and kept the shitloads of
                   prizes to himself!
        scorpik/pulse is thinking of finally paying those phone bills he keeps
                      stacked in the basement!
        Thor/TPOLM is cutting is hair again!
        Distance realized life isn't a game!
        d-lee/exceed is pregnant!
        picard/rhyme is entering hugi size compo #5
        rod/mandula is the alien d-lee was searching for! Although he won't
                    join exceed!
        virne thinks his picture packer is buggy!
        psychic symphony is leaving the scene!


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Misha:

>From now TD #Black is also available at:
ftp://ftp.scene.org/incoming/td_black.arj 1st disk
ftp://ftp.scene.org/incoming/td_black.a01 2nd disk

it should be much faster that not polish sceners :)
[ed: i couldn't find it... but do look for it! mag has great interviews!]


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Tesko News:

Silver Fox renamed to LONE SWORDSMAN

Tesko celebrated its 5th birthday in October.


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Kat/metaphor:

Karatti changed his nick to Kat.


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Gardner:

- Gardner joined Anakata
- dj regal, belial, szatin, ironman have left anakata

So, memberlist of Anakata is now:
 BiZaRRe...........Coder................Norway  
 Dethar............Coder................Poland
 Felix.............Musician.............Norway
 Gardner...........Organiser^swapper....Poland
 Lodlun............Coder^3d.............France
 Nuttah............Coder................Norway

We are looking for gfx and music makers, if you want in just write to me:
gardner@friko6.onet.plok


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Behemot:

ByteWay borntro is done!
ftp://amber.bti.pl/scene/distro/byteway/borntro.rar

Current memberstatus :

Alpha      ascii-maker, coder
Arson      musician (*new*)
Azure      2d graphician
Banshik    coder, graphician
Behemot    main-organizer, net-swapper
Doctor_Q   mail-swapper
Fugaz      coder, musician
Hyde       musician
Khamoon    coder (*new*)
Mash       coder
Nytrik     2d graphician (*new*)
Rastan     coder, designer
Tremens    raytracer

Upcoming productions :

- Multichannel module called 'Mystic Ganja' composed by Arson
- Photo report from Rush Hours'98
  (code-Fugaz; gfx-Azure; photos-Behemot; msx-Falcon/PLS,Decibel/Stones)
- Fugaz's music disk
  (code-Fugaz; gfx-Azure; msx-Fugaz)
- Intro 64 kB (Astrosyn'99)
  (code-Mash & Khamoon, gfx-Azure & Nytrik, msx-Hyde, ascii/ansii-Alpha)
- Intro 4 kB (Astrosyn'99)
  (code-Alpha)
- Intro 4 kB (Astrosyn'99)
  (code-Mash)
- Picture drew by Azure (Astrosyn'99)
- Picture drew by Nytrik (Astrosyn'99)
- Trace rendered by Tremens (Astrosyn'99)
- Multichannel module composed by Hyde (Astrosyn'99)
- Multichannel module composed by Arson (Astrosyn'99)


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Adok:

Hugi Size Coding Competition #5 has started on November 8th. Your task
is to write a clone for SORT.EXE of MS-DOS. As usual, the smallest
program will win, and the authors of the 30 best entries will get
points for the world league table.
The rules can be found at: http://home.pages.de/~hugi-compo/
Happy coding!


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        Scene dying!


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Starts:  Ends:        Country:    Name:               Contact:

Oct 28 - Oct 31, 1998 Sweden      Compusphere X       http://www.compusphere.org
Oct 29 - Nov 01, 1998 Sweden      DreamHack '98       http://www.dreamhack.org
Oct 30 - Nov 01, 1998 Sweden      ACG-Hack X          http://hack.amiga-cg.se
Nov 07 - Nov 08, 1998 Poland      Satellite '98       madbart@jormas.com
Nov 13 - Nov 15, 1998 Germany     Dialogos '98        http://www.kassablanca.de/dialogos98
Nov 13 - Nov 15, 1998 Norway      Kindergarten '98    http://kg.portveien.to/


      (X) <-- You are here!


Nov 20 - Nov 22, 1998 Slovakia    Demobit '98         http://demobit.sk

Dec 1998              Israel      Movement '98
Dec 12 - Dec 13, 1998 Slovenia    Abort '98           http://gw2.s-gimb.lj.edus.si/~abort98/
Dec 18 - Dec 20, 1998 Hungary     JuMPer '98          http://scene-hu.com/~jumper
Dec 19 - Dec 20, 1998 Romania     Dracula '98
Dec 25 - Dec 27, 1998 Argentina   The Flash '98       theflashparty.home.ml.org
Dec 27 - Dec 29, 1998 Denmark     The Party 1998      http://www.theparty.dk

Mar 1999              Italy       Trip 99
Mar 1999              Poland      Astrosyn'99
Mar 31 - Apr 04, 1999 Norway      The Gathering '99

Apr 02 - Apr 05, 1999 Germany     Mekka & Symp. 2k-1  http://ms.demo.org

May 29 - May 30, 1999 Germany     Komso/Neithernor'99 http://neithernor.demo.org

Jun 17 - Jun 20, 1999 Sweden      Remedy '99          http://www.remedy.nu

Jul 09 - Jul 11, 1999 Belgium     Inscene '99         www.analogica.com/inscene


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Session Start: Sun Nov 15 01:07:59 1998
[ed: hei look! my computer clock is advanced 1 day exactly!]
*** Now talking in #astroidea
*** Picard (user@port021.bp1.telnet.hu) has joined #astroidea
<Psychic_S> there...
<rept_ai> Picard hi
<Psychic_S> picard is our guest appearance lol
<tsc_ai> :)
<rept_ai> :))
<Psychic_S> ok, so start by all you guys telling me your date of birth, name,
            and scene ocupation
<rept_ai> go by the namelist
<rept_ai> gene :)
<gene_ai> 1977 - Genesis - Szabo Nobert - coder
<rept_ai> 1978 - Reptile - Vasvri Balzs - musician, coder
<gene_ai> rept: coder, musician... not musician, coder... :))))
<rept_ai> eh
<rept_ai> hehe 
<tsc_ai> I was born in '76, my name is Szabo Gabor, and i'm a codermusician 
<Psychic_S> another gabor?
<rept_ai> ( Psychic_S : in brackets: we write our names in a different way)
<rept_ai> oh ok you know then
<tsc_ai> yes, it's a common name here, as you can see :)
<Psychic_S> ok, so which one of you is the alien?
<rept_ai> HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
<Psychic_S> i heard about an alien infiltrated on astroidea...
<Psychic_S> who is he... cammon...
<rept_ai> genesis
<tsc_ai> surely he is
<gene_ai> i came from the outer space... but im human...
<Psychic_S> genesis: ahah! what planet you come from?
<rept_ai> there's even an unmasked pic of him
<Psychic_S> rept: where where?
<gene_ai> from a distant planet a galaxy far far away...
<tsc_ai> JABBA
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : gene and tsc have it i assume
<Psychic_S> ok... questions... how long has astroidea been formed...
<rept_ai> uh oh
<gene_ai> rept: i think you are the right person to answer...
<rept_ai> i think it's my job to tell you about us
<rept_ai> so
<rept_ai> back in 1994
<rept_ai> three of use have formed a group
<rept_ai> called zhpt
<rept_ai> (i wont tell you what it is :))
<rept_ai> use=us btw
<rept_ai> later, when we became more active (means: we did nothing:), we
          changed it to foundation
<rept_ai> on this very day we learned that there was another foundation :)
          so we changed it to astroidea
<Psychic_S> we who?
<rept_ai> we=snowman, o-man, and i
<Psychic_S> why astroidea?
<Psychic_S> whats special about it?
<rept_ai> well:)
<rept_ai> i had a classmate
<Psychic_S> tsc: lets invent anagrams while he answers...
<rept_ai> who wasnt too good at telling stories
<Psychic_S> asstrodiarea
<tsc_ai> a soda tire (c) Mandula
<rept_ai> he told us about his privateer-game sessions
<Psychic_S> tsc: yah!
<Psychic_S> privateer was cool game...
<rept_ai> and he said: "and this and then and when the astroideas came......"
<rept_ai> we laughed our asses off in the class
<rept_ai> and when we (foundation) came to finding a name
<rept_ai> i told them it'd be cool they immediately disagreed :))))
<rept_ai> but they didnt come with up with any better
<rept_ai> so we kept it
<Psychic_S> a new star was born! =)
<rept_ai> speeding up things
<rept_ai> we released our very first code based thing in 1995
<Psychic_S> nice story... and where do these other two come to play? (tell
            us about big story with astroidea vs shock)
<rept_ai> called astro - a 64k intro
<Psychic_S> asstro! :P
<rept_ai> just wait ;)
<Psychic_S> ok... explain...
<rept_ai> in 1996, we went to cache96 and released our first demo - max
<rept_ai> and we met another group shock
<rept_ai> including genesis and tsc
<rept_ai> in 96, we released another demo 'mutha'
<Psychic_S> btw: is mutha2 released yet or not? i dont have it yet...
<tsc_ai> psychic symphony - my chipsy pony ("s,h,c" are left out :)))
<tsc_ai> Psychic_S  that was all i could do :)
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : it was released on antiq98
<Psychic_S> tsc: u did that by hand?
<Psychic_S> rept: url...
<rept_ai> 1997 was a big year for us
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : astroidea.scene-hu.com          
*** mrz_ai (~mrz@szamos-118.dialin.datanet.hu) has joined #astroidea
*** SCEneST sets mode: +o mrz_ai
<SCEneST> [mrz_ai] MRZ / AstroideA [coder]
[ed: scenest bot... gota love it!]
<Psychic_S> rept: ok... go on
<gene_ai> hi mrz
<mrz_ai> sziasztok
[ed: here comes the trouble maker! notice how he manages to ruin every single
     question from here on... ;)]
<tsc_ai> mrz_ai  eppen interjut csinal velunk a srac :)))
<rept_ai> in 1997, genesis, tsc and trajic joined, and they debuted with their
          demo "overdrive"
<mrz_ai> gene_ai rept_ai Picard tsc_ai Psychic_S 
<Psychic_S> mrz: just in time! im interviewing whole astro!
<gene_ai> mrz: eppen egy csapat interview van jol...
<mrz_ai> wow  mindenki itt van
<mrz_ai> cool
<mrz_ai> Psychic_S haha cool
<mrz_ai> tsc_ai legjobb
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : oh i left it out: mutha1 was mrz's debut demo
<Picard> mrz: hi
<Psychic_S> with picard as our pupeteer! (he is watching us! :PPP)
<mrz_ai> Picard hi
<mrz_ai> rept_ai  how could you leave it out :>
<tsc_ai> evil 4k intro coder
<rept_ai> mrz_ai : im evil :)
<rept_ai> Psychic_S: in 1997 we released another coop demo with chrome, called
          "angeldust2"
<Psychic_S> picard: dont be afraid to intervein and insult everyone on the
            channel! thats what friends are for... ;)
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : then we went silent. our latest demo was released a few
          months ago. (mutha2)
* Psychic_S has a question about angeldust 1
<Psychic_S> my version always crashes after the chik pic...
<rept_ai> and we organized lotsa parties :)
<gene_ai> Psychic_S: after which one? :))
<mrz_ai> Psychic_S  write that i just came back from a movie which i saw with
         picard and some other dudes
[ed: mrz haven't realized he is on film yet... :P]
<Psychic_S> the brownish one!
<tsc_ai> Psychic_S  maybe without emm386 it won't
<rept_ai> that's it, in nutshell
[ed: background of astroidea is over! time for questions!]
<gene_ai> Psychic_S: try it in dos mode without emm386...
<Psychic_S> tsc: nah nah... tried it!
<tsc_ai> Psychic_S :)) but they are all brown :)
<Psychic_S> gene: himem and sb support only! crashes!
<Psychic_S> tsc: well... the one naked! lying on a bed!
<tsc_ai> Psychic_S send us your computer, and we're gonna fix it :)
<gene_ai> Psychic_S: try it with ultrasound... :))
[ed: no GUS for little me! :(]
<mrz_ai> that's overdrive i think
[ed: he's starting to wake up around now... NO, it's spiceless actually!
     my fault! I confused them all! :P angeldust also crashes but only on end]   
<Psychic_S> tsc: wait... let me zip it so i can dcc send... DAMN how am i gonna
            fit my mother board into a zip?
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : btw:   1977 - Mrz - Rajnai Zoltn - Coder
* Psychic_S punches his computer a couple of times
<Psychic_S> auch!
<mrz_ai> rept_ai thanx
<Psychic_S> rept: oh yeah... thx
<tsc_ai> Psychic_S try with a hammer..
<rept_ai> mrz_ai noprob. i saved you some typing :)
<mrz_ai> Psychic_S Zoltan Rajnai   (like John Smith)   so  Zoltan is my
         first name...
<tsc_ai> but first we should complete the interview, THEN you should punish
         your machine
<gene_ai> mrz: he knows everything... :)))
<Psychic_S> lets get down to more serious stuff... i ask one question and
            each of you tell me just one answer!
<Psychic_S> first party!
<mrz_ai> gene_ai ;>
<mrz_ai> Scenest 95
<rept_ai> mrz_ai : we go by the namelist
* Psychic_S slaps mrz: behave... :PPPPPPP
[ed: trouble maker! ;)]
<rept_ai> too late :)
<Psychic_S> ok ok... restarting
<mrz_ai> hehe
<mrz_ai> sorry :/
* mrz_ai sits in the corner
[ed: and don't move until we let you know... :P]
<tsc_ai> TSI parti 91 (the first pc party in hungary, i was an organizer)
<gene_ai> 1991 in hungary called 220v party.
<rept_ai> Cache'94
<Psychic_S> favorite drink
<gene_ai> coke
<tsc_ai> Coke light (oem version)
<rept_ai> cherry coke
<mrz_ai> coke
<rept_ai> mrz_ai ?
<Psychic_S> favorite demo (including your owns)
<rept_ai> namelist okay????
<tsc_ai> ok
<gene_ai> huh.. i have lots of...
<gene_ai> olders: unreal... :)) 
<gene_ai> dope
<gene_ai> stars
<gene_ai> second reality
* Psychic_S grabs mrz by the ear... look at the board young man!
<mrz_ai> 303 / acme  crystal dream 2
<rept_ai> lol
<Psychic_S> gene: just one! :PPPP
<rept_ai> second reality, crystal dream2, 303
<gene_ai> and i like angeldust 1 too... :)
* Psychic_S thinks this is gonna be pretty messy to edit!
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : sorry - there's no TOP1
<tsc_ai> Timedemo1 in Quake  - erm,..  no, it's Saint by Halcyon!
[ed: saint rules!!!]
<rept_ai> hehehe
<Picard> fulcrum/matrix
[ed: picard lives!]
<Psychic_S> wtf... favorite intro then...
<Psychic_S> so?
<rept_ai> no more favorites please :)))))
<rept_ai> who the hell could choose
<gene_ai> hmmm...
<mrz_ai> gene_ai goes first
<gene_ai> stash... 
<gene_ai> pl...
<mrz_ai> Psychic_S dont ask favorite stuff ;))  we can't choose
<tsc_ai> Surely STASH but just for the music, coz I like goa and Probe's
         stuff generally
<gene_ai> but just for the music..
<mrz_ai> stash jizz
<Picard> stash for ever :)
<rept_ai> astro. no doubt :)
<mrz_ai> and any fudge intro ;>
<mrz_ai> :>
* Psychic_S has one big question
<Psychic_S> WHAT THE HELL IS GOA?!?!?
<mrz_ai> tsc_ai answer
<Psychic_S> I wanna know... i never understood!
<rept_ai> tsc_ai your very turn ;)
<tsc_ai> w8
<rept_ai> goa is a town in India
<tsc_ai> it's a kind of Psychedelic trance, the name GOA refers to a city in
         Asia in India
<Psychic_S> examples...
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : stash. jizz.
<rept_ai> :)
<tsc_ai> Astral Projection is the most known goa band
<Psychic_S> tsc: dont know them...
<gene_ai> astralasia... 
<tsc_ai> on amiga Azazel, Probe did a lot of good goa songs
<tsc_ai> rept_ai  :)
<Psychic_S> humm
<tsc_ai> so, you still don't know too much, but at least we tried :)
<Psychic_S> ok... back to questions... this is a race compo... see whom is
            quicker...
<Psychic_S> whats a demo?
<gene_ai> an artistic presentation...
<rept_ai> a demo is a noninteractive multimedia presentation
<tsc_ai> demonstration of coding and art skill
<Psychic_S> whats a mod?
<rept_ai> mod is an amiga based music format
<gene_ai> a 4 channels music format.
<tsc_ai> Mahoney and Kaktus =)
[ed: i didn't get that last one!]
<rept_ai> tsc_ai : yessss:)
<rept_ai> dang:)
<Psychic_S> what is the capital of madagascar?
<tsc_ai> Helsinki?!
<gene_ai> Budapest... :))
<rept_ai> Budapest???
<rept_ai> gene_ai :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
[ed: tsc tsc... antananarivo!]
<Psychic_S> define scene!
<mrz_ai> how long have you guys been online?
<Psychic_S> mrz: way too long! :P answer questions!
<Psychic_S> define scene...
<Picard> scene=anarchy :)
<mrz_ai> :>>
<tsc_ai> Scene is where all the lousy guys (who can't bear reality) spend
         their little unimportant lives and trying to make stuff to amuse
         each others :)
<mrz_ai> scene= friendship ;>>>
<rept_ai> scene is a community based on making non-profit productions for
          each other to share our knowledges or just plainly cause immense
          pain :)
<mrz_ai> scene = underground community of computer nerds
<tsc_ai> scene is scene - no doubts
<mrz_ai> rept_ai wow
<Psychic_S> define nerd...
<rept_ai> Psychic_S 
<rept_ai> ?
<rept_ai> (that was the definiton ;)))
<rept_ai> just kidding
[ed: lol!]
<mrz_ai> Psychic_S  umm  people who go to chess competitions ;> have their
         pens in their shirt pocket etc... (stereotype)......
<mrz_ai> rept_ai  ;>
<tsc_ai> 150 tall, wears glasses, holds a coding book in the left hand, and
         a bottle of coke in the right
<mrz_ai> :>
<gene_ai> tsc: :)))
<rept_ai> tsc_ai : BLALA!!!!
<rept_ai> :)))))
<tsc_ai> jea!
<mrz_ai> (not all of them wear glasses;>
<mrz_ai> blala ;>.
<rept_ai> mrz_ai : some of them wear lenses ;)
<mrz_ai> hehe
<mrz_ai> nerd= people who are on IRC on friday night
<Psychic_S> mrz: what day is it today anyways?
<rept_ai> saturday
<Psychic_S> mrz: monday? saturday?
<mrz_ai> Psychic_S  umm (early) saturday
<Psychic_S> define elite...
<rept_ai> elite? very cool game from the early 80's
<mrz_ai> some of the them have perfect vision
<tsc_ai> Elite is an old game from C64
<Psychic_S> mrz: go sit on a corner... :PPPPPPPP
<tsc_ai> Eliteism is dead together with BBS-es
<mrz_ai> elite =  someone who you see on a party and say "wow that's xxxxxx"
<rept_ai> elitism means being (in a good sense) separated from the lower masses
* Psychic_S thinks this will be fun!
<Psychic_S> define mrz_ai!
<gene_ai> a nerd! :))
<rept_ai> :)
<mrz_ai> haha
<rept_ai> #define mrz_ai
<Psychic_S> define genesis_ai
<Picard> define DemoJournal :)
<Psychic_S> picard: hei!
<Psychic_S> picard: nice line... answer that guys...
<mrz_ai> COME ON PPL       ORDER .....ORDER  :>?
<mrz_ai> i mean let's answer first before we ask something else
<mrz_ai> ok?
<Picard> mrz_ai: NO :)
<tsc_ai> w8
<Psychic_S> mrz: ok... answer picards question!
<mrz_ai> hmm
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : camon! come up with something else ;)
<Psychic_S> rept: now i wanna know... define demojournal!
<mrz_ai> demojournal: a weekly newsletter that's not getting the attention it
         deserves
<rept_ai> okay
<rept_ai> demojournal is a mag
<rept_ai> definitely on a good way to inherit demonews' place
<gene_ai> demojournal... i havent read any of it... yet! :)
[ed: shame on you!]
<tsc_ai> DemoJournal is a bunch of digital information that is starting to
         fill up my hard disk with pretty useless information, but generally
         it's a nice thing that will help our scene survive
* Psychic_S throws in another question: Whats the best effect you have ever
  seen?
<rept_ai> guys?
<rept_ai> uhm
<mrz_ai> HAHA EASY:       BBLLOBBSS
<mrz_ai> hehe
<rept_ai> mrz_ai thought you would choose it ;)
<mrz_ai> ;>
<rept_ai> best effect.......
<gene_ai> hmm... nowadays... i havent got any of them, but i was stunned when
          i saw dope....
<rept_ai> i think it was bump when i first saw it
<tsc_ai> Best effect: maybe the world-vector in unreal, i was amazed when i
         saw that...
<Psychic_S> what about metaballs?
<gene_ai> metaballs = blobs... :))
[ed: AH!]
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : mrz chose blobs ;)
<mrz_ai> Psychic_S  metaballs=blobs ;> my fav
<Psychic_S> whats a dif between blobs and shadebobs?
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : he's a blobmaster so dont mess with him ;)
<gene_ai> huh... a world... :)
<mrz_ai> Psychic_S completely different
<rept_ai> certified blobcoder
<tsc_ai> (he sends us his new blob routine daily - it seems he didn't notice
         that this effect is OLD :)
<rept_ai> :)
<mrz_ai> grrrrr
<gene_ai> what shadebobs were on a 286 are metaballs on a pentium... :)
<rept_ai> not old just needs some improvement :)
<rept_ai> he's thinking
<rept_ai> ;)
<mrz_ai> who?
<rept_ai> psy
* Psychic_S is ... er... out of ideas!
<mrz_ai> how much of the interview did i miss ?
<rept_ai> mrz_ai : very very much :)
<Psychic_S> lets try and talk about serious stuff then...
<tsc_ai> ask our fav. food =)))) <grin>
<rept_ai> tsc_ai : NOOOOOO
<tsc_ai> rept_ai  j/k
<Picard> what do you think about 3d demos?
<mrz_ai> Picard i like them'
<rept_ai> 3d demos are cool as long as they arent boring
<mrz_ai> rept_ai really? much stuff before the group history?
<Psychic_S> rept: define boring...
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : boring = you wish it was a c64 demo where you could
          press space to see the next part :)
<gene_ai> Picard: a good mix between 3d and 2d effect is required in a good
          demo...
<tsc_ai> Should support 3d accelerators ASAP
<rept_ai> i dont care if it's 2d 3d mixed or anything 
<Picard> what is your forecast for the next year (in demoscene)?
<Psychic_S> is the future really all about windows and 3d-cards?
<mrz_ai> Picard  are you going to be the editor of the next demojournal? :>>
<Psychic_S> mrz: he might! ;)
<Psychic_S> picard: thx for help! =)
<gene_ai> i think the usage of 3d accelerators will spread..
<tsc_ai> I 'm afraid demoscene is slowly dying :(
<Psychic_S> tsc: why?
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : 3d cards are CHEAP. so why not
<mrz_ai> windows for sure..... im not sure about 3d cards.......it seems to me
         it limits the person to 3d and polygon based effects
<rept_ai> mrz_ai : megcsinaltam az ave glide supportot:) mutha2 vegigmegy
<gene_ai> mrz_ai: i think you are wrong... :)) define 3d effect... :))
<Psychic_S> rept: so is voodoo II taking over?
<tsc_ai> Psychic_S  i see the most active great groups fall asleep or coding
         commercial stuff, and i can't see really good newcomers, at least i
         can't see ENOUGH  ;(
<mrz_ai> gene_ai  anything that has objects rotating and/or a camera moving
         about something ;>
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : v2 or tnt or whatever
<Psychic_S> tsc: and why is that?
<gene_ai> mrz: it is possible using polygons to do not 3d looking effect too...
          for example radial blur... and so on...
<mrz_ai> gene_ai radial blur with polys?
<gene_ai> mrz: yeah... :))
<mrz_ai> like 2 polys for a plane or what?
<mrz_ai> i mean a square
<tsc_ai> Psychic_S  lotsa reasons exist: lack of interest, quake, windows,
         commercial coding, and so on
<gene_ai> mrz: pl. 30 polys...
<mrz_ai> and dump them on top of eachother....
<mrz_ai> that's emulating a 2d effect
<gene_ai> mrz: yeah... :)
<gene_ai> mrz: with bilinear filtering and hires...
<mrz_ai> gene_ai we'll see ;>
<Psychic_S> what do you guys think about design? and these new demos that have
            been coming out
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : scene was about making effects on an existing hardware,
          with all its limitations. nowadays, demomaking is like game-industry.
          code+music+gfx are all important, and if only one of them is missing
          or not VERY good, you're dead.
<mrz_ai> Psychic_S i like demos with design but ONLY design is not good
         enough..... i think a demo revolves around the code (but code
         without good music and nice synching is worthless)
<Psychic_S> picard: next question!
<mrz_ai> haha
<rept_ai> :))))))))
<tsc_ai> Purple, Blasphemy, Exceed, Mandula, they all came up with the same
         idea, that a good designed demo can beat everything, that code isn't
         that important, design that only matters :) (at least for me)
<Psychic_S> mrz: picard, my saviour... :PPPPP
<mrz_ai> :>
<Psychic_S> tsc: now dont say that those demos dont have awesome code
<Psychic_S> tsc: because you and i know they do!
<tsc_ai> Psychic_S  maybe they have, but you know, that they put the design
         into foreground, and they are right
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : 'dis' definitely has cool code. the others dont
<Psychic_S> tsc: isnt the key knowdays to put effects rolling? not just
            effects... VERY DARN GOOD LOOKING EFFECTS!
<tsc_ai> and new ideas, and to connect them, to keep the demo smooth
<Psychic_S> rept: 3D splines on blasphemy and purple...
<gene_ai> Psychic_S: ok... you are right, but we werent so amazed like the
          old times...
<Psychic_S> gene: maybe in the old days ppl werent looking for design but for
            capability... taking cpu to the limit!
<tsc_ai> Moreover good looking effects don't always require hard coding.
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : splines arent that hard to code.
<Psychic_S> nowdays all have pentiums and dont really care on speed!
<tsc_ai> Cpu isn't a limiter anymore...
<Psychic_S> you guys seen shad/cocoon+syndrome? design was definitly main
            key...
<mrz_ai> shad was nice
<Picard> Psychic_S: yes, but slow 3d
<rept_ai> shad has design?
<tsc_ai> very slow :)
<rept_ai> i didnt notice
<gene_ai> design? i think they created very nice 3d scenes, but not the
          design was the best thing...
<mrz_ai> tok jo lesz a riport.....mindenkit utalunk
<rept_ai> :))
<tsc_ai> And on my machine their 3ds player wrote a lots of text on the
         screen scrolling the pic away, is that design!? :)
<Psychic_S> rept: U DIDNT NOTICED?
<Psychic_S> rept: their 3d-engine might need a work but they did work on
            design!
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : no. i saw cool textures
<tsc_ai> the guy who did the textures  - he was brilliant.. (tenshu)
<Psychic_S> rept: and those were done thinking on what? design!
<gene_ai> Psychic_S: no it is not design... just very nice gfx...
<rept_ai> Psychic_S: thinking and doing is a different thing. but dont go
          into it
<gene_ai> but really nice.
<Psychic_S> rept: too late... what do you mean, thinking and doing is dif?
<rept_ai> "thinking and doing is a different thing" our latest demo is the
          best example of this
<tsc_ai> In my opinion Grif, Majic12, Exceed (and a lotsa groups on amiga)-
         they did the best designed demos so far
<gene_ai> Psychic_S: a demo full of high quality pictures just shown after
          eachother is not design (im not speaking about shad..)
<rept_ai> tsc_ai : right
<rept_ai> gene_ai : :))))))) hm full of pictures, hm hm i saw this
          somewhere.......:)
<gene_ai> rept: where??? :)))
<tsc_ai> hehe... mutha2 :)
<Psychic_S> pictures after pictures is slideshow
<tsc_ai> aje ...
<rept_ai> but when it goes at the right speed, it's called "movie" :)
<tsc_ai> =))
<Psychic_S> but if you have all pictures sorrounding some theme and then do
            some according music and effects... you have design!
<gene_ai> so just the gfx not makes a demo to have well designed...
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : that's what we tried to do. we didnt succeed very well
<Psychic_S> rept: :)
<tsc_ai> design needs time... lotsa time with synchronizing a bunch of small
         happenings to the music
<rept_ai> thats right
<Psychic_S> tsc: like with hyperventilation/byterapers
<gene_ai> Psychic_S: and this isnt enough too...
<Psychic_S> gene: go on...
<tsc_ai> i think 30+fps is also a part of design (believe or not)
<gene_ai> look at purple's demo... and you will see design, i think...
          (thats my opinion...)
<gene_ai> but i think second reality isn't so well designed too... :)
<rept_ai> synchronizing is the key. look at second reality. it has no
          "feelingdesign" or "themedesign" but it is well synchronized, and
          it's cool
<rept_ai> :)
<Psychic_S> ai ai ai... design is giving me an headache
<Psychic_S> so what about statix demos... they have hardly no gfx yet design
            rules!
* mrz_ai LOVES the part in second reality with the  plasma and the AWESOME
  music at that part........... that gives you a strange strange feeling when
  you watch it....
[ed: yeah... spine chills! :~)]
<mrz_ai> that's design
<rept_ai> gfx isnt neccesary
<mrz_ai> 303 is awesome (the music and the blobs make it a sure winner in my
         book)
<gene_ai> mrz: ok... you are right...
<Psychic_S> mrz: even with all those bugs and so badly polished? gfx wise it
            partly sucked! though everyone seems to love it...
<gene_ai> Psychic_S: it was a milestone in the demo history, this is sure...
<mrz_ai> i like it because it has great music (singing!) and the first time i
         watched it, i wanted to see it about 3 more times...
<tsc_ai> i think there are different types of design.. statix' demos don't
         have too much gfx but you can't see still pictures in music videos
         either!  so gfx isn't required, but can help a lot.
<Psychic_S> ok... so definition of design is...
<rept_ai> cant we leave design??? :)
<tsc_ai> hEH
<mrz_ai> design = the overall feeling that the demo gives you
         (it can use many means to achieve the feeling.....i think that music
         is the most powerful way..... then come the graphics....) but demos
         that have all this but no code still can't be called good demos....
<mrz_ai> so it's really complex
<Psychic_S> lol
<tsc_ai> it's like meaning of life...
<gene_ai> 42... :))
<mrz_ai> design = impression you get..........  the demo fell apart....or
         really strong and compact! hehe
<Psychic_S> ok... back to aliens then... genesis: tell us about your
            homeplanet...
<gene_ai> hey... leave me with that alien thing... :)))
<tsc_ai> (he wants to keep his incognito)
<Psychic_S> gene: OK OK! dont worry... we wont tell a person!
[ed: HEI LOOK EVERYONE! GENESIS IS AN ALIEN!!!]
<Psychic_S> ;)
<Psychic_S> any questions you guys want to ask each other?
<rept_ai> each other. hm well
<gene_ai> Psychic_S: you may ask things about our plans... :))
<rept_ai> HAHAHA
<tsc_ai> no
<rept_ai> tsc_ai : no??? hol??? :)
<Psychic_S> what are your plans for the future?
* mrz_ai asks; why am i so beautiful and all of you so ugly?
[ed: we don't shower 5 times a day!]
<mrz_ai> :)
<mrz_ai> Psychic_S: finish school and get a high paying job somewhere ;>
* gene_ai asks: why am i so clever and all of you so stupid?
[ed: it's a matter of personality and character! You might think others are
     stupid while they are actually more clever than you! ;)]
<tsc_ai> umm, i would get rich, and i would get some sportscar, finish our
         game, these are my plans for the next year
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : a family. settling down in a beautiful valley. enjoying
          the gifts of mother nature. seeing my kids as they grow up, with
          the cute doggies of course. watching the sunset. in peace and quiet
<mrz_ai> umm are your kids gonna be dogs?
<mrz_ai> heeh
<Psychic_S> how old are you all again?
<mrz_ai> Psychic_S  im 21
<rept_ai> and after this. all goes black
<Psychic_S> rept: what? comet? earthquake? tidalwave?
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : none of them. the inner fire that burns...... eating
          our body. noone can resist
[ed: yeah... filosophy on a friday 13th! actually it's already 2am but...]
<tsc_ai> i'm 22
<gene_ai> Picard: and it is possible we will release something too... but it
          is not sure... at least not in this century... :))
<rept_ai> i'm 20 but i feel like.. 80
<Psychic_S> any projects including picard/rhyme that awesome size coder?
<Picard> i'am 21
<mrz_ai> projects writing a thesis and finishing school
<mrz_ai> no clearly defined projects in the scene (or so i think....... ;)
<rept_ai> i definitely have plans
<Psychic_S> rept: for what?
<rept_ai> we're going to release a musicdisk of the music label "beep"
<rept_ai> next month
<Psychic_S> rept: ah! good... and the url for that is...
<rept_ai> and i have several plans
<rept_ai> Psychic_S :it's not released yet
<rept_ai> Psychic_S : www.nexus.hu/carlos  it's only an introduction 
<tsc_ai> I would like to become a graphic artist, because that's the only
         thing i hadn't experienced yet on my scene carreer.
<gene_ai> rept: mizujs a partyval? az is lesz? nemde?
<mrz_ai> Psychic_S  lots of talk and little action....
<Psychic_S> just for the final wrap up... how is the hungarian scene going?
<tsc_ai> And we would like to organize Scenest parties of course...
<mrz_ai> rept 
<SCEneST> [rept] Reptile / Astroidea [musician/coder]
<rept_ai> so
<rept_ai> back with a vengeance
<gene_ai> rept: mizujs a partyval? az is lesz? nemde?
<rept_ai> gene_ai remelem
<Psychic_S> well i guess its time for the goodbye! :(
<Psychic_S> anyone wants to say hi to anyone?
<rept_ai> goodbye Psychic_S. live long and prosper
<Psychic_S> rept: lol. not me, silly... your friends!
<gene_ai> hi to all sceners on the world... :))))
<tsc_ai> i would like to say hi to mom and dad, and little pete
<tsc_ai> :)
<Psychic_S> tsc: who is pete?
<tsc_ai> Psychic_S  he's my little brother =)) 
<rept_ai> well
<rept_ai> i'd like to thank my producer, my friends who helped me alot
<rept_ai> my parents. i luv ya!!!!!
<rept_ai> and of course my fans, without them i couldnt be here tonight!
<rept_ai> dont ever try to include this :)
<rept_ai> i was only kidding
[ed: i wouldn't dream to include it! :PPPPPP]
<Psychic_S> rept: u seen mtv europe music awards yesterday didnt you?
* rept_ai watched too much mtv
<rept_ai> :)))))))))))))
<Psychic_S> rept: though so! :PP
<tsc_ai> yess
<Psychic_S> mrz: btw: what on earth did you do?!?!? i got about 30 new
            subscribers for demojournal from hungary alone!
*** mrz_ai has quit IRC (Ping timeout!)
<Picard> Psychic_S: mrz made a propagnda for DJ in hungary :)
<gene_ai> mrz is dead... :))
<rept_ai> out of biz he is
<Psychic_S> oh well...
<Psychic_S> well just have to say goodbye without him
<Psychic_S> all together now... BBBBBBBBBBBBBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
<Psychic_S> wave to the camera...
<gene_ai> bye
<tsc_ai> bye dude!
<rept_ai> viszlat Psychic_S !
<Psychic_S> picard?
<rept_ai> i aint no sea
<rept_ai> why would i be waving
<Psychic_S> rept: bahahaha bad line...
<gene_ai> sea?
<tsc_ai> my fans are waiting for me: <magda--> Hi there 20 Years old female i
         have nude shots at http://206.129.156.234/imfee
<Psychic_S> tsc: LOL
<tsc_ai> this is the 20th message tonight of this kind =))
<rept_ai> Psychic_S ya but it has design ;)
<Psychic_S> welll thats it! finished! =)
<Psychic_S> thx a lot guys... i dont recall such a fast paced interview ever!
<rept_ai> eh
<rept_ai> we're serving and protecting
<Psychic_S> oh well... better dont loose this log!
<rept_ai> if you do, i got it ;)
<tsc_ai> we have it too
<gene_ai> and me too... :)
<Psychic_S> thx
<tsc_ai> don't be afraid :)
<Psychic_S> saving for posterity!
<Psychic_S> :P
<tsc_ai> =))
<rept_ai> feel the power of goodbye
<Psychic_S> gonna redo the wallpaper on my bed room with this!
<Psychic_S> rept: too much mtv
<Picard> Psychic_S: greatings to Adok
<tsc_ai> beszarok
<gene_ai> the power is yours... :)
<gene_ai> may the force be with you!
<rept_ai> may the power be with you
[ed: power?]
<rept_ai> force
<rept_ai> dang
<rept_ai> im lame
<gene_ai> rept:!!!!!!!
<gene_ai> rept!!!!!
<rept_ai> i corrected!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<rept_ai> :))))))))))))))
<gene_ai> :))
<rept_ai> gene_ai : telepatia :)
* Psychic_S logs out! boom!
Session Close: Sun Nov 15 02:31:46 1998
[ed: 1 hour and a half!]

        Must say this was one hell of a cool interview! Let's see if next week
szum can do better! :)

                        Psychic Symphony


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------| 6.Demo of the week |---------------------------------------------------
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  overdrive - astroidea's contribution for the rage ninetyseven democompo
 
  .credits
 
  genesis         - 3dsplay, routines, textures, keyframing
  tsc             - videosystem, routines, textures, design
  beast           - artwork
  rendall         - artwork, design
  kal             - artwork
  melan           - additional design and ideas
  trajic          - music
  crafty/exact    - textures

  soundsys - midas by sahara surfers ( /setup for manual sound setup)
  pmode/w  - daredevil and tran

  .system requirements

  gus (ace, pnp) 512k or a sound blaster (pro, 16) compatible
  fast vga (lores truecolor recommended)
  486+ but a pentium is strongly recommended
  16 megabytes of free memory (sorry lamers :)

  .comment

  try to find the  hidden  suicide  messages and  hidden parts!

  .Psychic Symphony

  kick ass demo! 2nd place it got! My first contact with astroidea.
  debut of trajic, tsc and genesis on astroidea!
  who would have known one year later i would be interviewing the guys
  themselves? =)


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        'Whisper' by Melwyn/Acid Rain
        ftp.scene.org/music/artists/melwyn/me_whisp.mp3

        Totally rules! Official dreamhack'98 results are still unreleased but
i think this one got second place! Not sure... Lots of compos going on at
dreamhack'98 so...
        The song itself is a sort of rock-symphony. Some furious strings
in there, combined with awesome vocals! And arpegios in the background!
First time i heard it, was just a gore tune, after more examination i started
noticing other details that totally went against that concept! It's hard for
me to describe tunes since i just go for what sound nice but this one definitly
sound good! Very good indeed! It has this anger release to it...

                        Psychic symphony


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        Astroidea........................http://astroidea.scene-hu.com
        Blasphemy..............................http://www.blasphemy.dk
        Byteway...............ftp://amber.bti.pl/scene/distro/byteway/
        DC-1.....................................demo.dyn.ml.org/scene
        Exceed...........................http://www.inf.bme.hu/~exceed
        Hugi.......................http://home.pages.de/~hugidownload/
        Milk.......................................http://milk.sgic.fi
        Mandula.........................http://www.inf.bme.hu/~mandula
        Melcom....................http://www.center-nebula.com/melcom/
        Melcom (mirror)......................http://www.melcom.cjb.net
        Mono211..............................http://www.scene.org/mono
        Nico....................................http://geecs.org/~nico
        Pain............................http://www.space.ch/scene/pain
        Quad.....................................http://www.quad98.net
        Rhyme................................http://rhyme.scene-hu.com
        The Black Lotus.............................http://www.tbl.org
        Tokyo Dawn Records........................http://tdr.scene.org
        TPOLM...............................http://www.tpolm.scene.org               


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<Psychic_S> what is the capital of madagascar?
<tsc_ai> Helsinki?!
<gene_ai> Budapest... :))
<rept_ai> Budapest???
<rept_ai> gene_ai :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

        They where a little confused! ;)                              


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        Please vote on reply to the mailing list newsletter release! Just
send back something like pulse/shad/paper/unreal/falcon/made.
        The markers on the side are comparing to last week's position.
        Whenever the list gets too big i will discount 1 point from each
votee! Until the day comes, keep those votes rolling in...

        Group:          Pulse.................................. (19) =
                        CNCD................................... (6)  =
                        Purple................................. (4)  =
                        Doomsday............................... (4)  =
                        Exceed................................. (4)  >
                        The Black Lotus........................ (3)  >
                        Orange................................. (2)  <
                        Blasphemy.............................. (2)  <
                        Fudge.................................. (2)  >
                        Hellcore............................... (1)  =
                        Halcyon................................ (1)  =
                        Quad................................... (1)  =
                        Komplex................................ (1)  =
                        ACME................................... (1)  =
                        Exmortis............................... (1)  N

        Demo:           Shad....................Cocoon^Syndrome (7)  =
                        73ms..............................Pulse (5)  =
                        Dis.............................Mandula (5)  =
                        The Fulcrum......................Matrix (4)  >
                        Hyperventilation.............Byterapers (3)  =
                        Rip Rap..........................Exceed (3)  >
                        Off............................Doomsday (3)  =
                        303................................ACME (2)  >
                        Tribes............................Pulse (2)  >
                        Sexadelic....................Byterapers (1)  =
                        Stigma.........................Doomsday (1)  =
                        Boost: vivid part 2............Doomsday (1)  =
                        Second Reality..............Future Crew (1)  =
                        Automaton Flavour..............Hellcore (1)  =
                        Stars: Wonders of the world.......NoooN (1)  <
                        Rebel? (as perceived)...........Komplex (1)  =
                        Sunflower.........................Pulse (1)  N
                        Tour..............................Pulse (1)  N
                        Captured Dreams........................ (1)  N
                        Unclean........................Exmortis (1)  N
                        Caero.........................EMF^Plant (1)  N

        Intro:          Paper........................statix+vic (11) =
                        Pager 11..........................Fudge (6)  =
                        Mesha.............................Rhyme (5)  =
                        Stash...................The Black Lotus (5)  >
                        Deesbab..........................Orange (4)  =
                        Clone meets clone..................ACME (4)  =
                        Birdcage.........................Jamm R (4)  >
                        Sin(x)...........................Dawn 3 (2)  <                        
                        Kill the clone....................Fudge (2)  =
                        transmogrification II.............Blocc (1)  =
                        Huge Crowd.......................Orange (1)  =
                        24/7........................Pulse^Sonik (1)  N

        Code:           Unreal.............................CNCD (11) =
                        Mr.Sex.......................Byterapers (6)  =
                        Statix.........................Lionhead (6)  >
                        Virne..............................COMA (6)  >
                        Echo..............................Fudge (4)  <
                        Mrock..........................Hellcore (4)  <
                        Picard............................Rhyme (3)  =
                        Rod.............................Mandula (3)  =
                        Barti.............................NoooN (2)  =
                        Plash.....................Nothing^Azure (2)  >
                        Buckshag...................Superstition (1)  <
                        Dune.............................Orange (1)  =                        
                        Hellfire........................Haujobb (1)  =
                        Galvados.........................Orange (1)  =
                        Nix.....................The Black Lotus (1)  =
                        Whizzter........................Woorlic (1)  =
                        Jace....................The Black Lotus (1)  N
                        Camel........................<no group> (1)  N

        Music:          Falcon.......................Tokyo Dawn (8)  =
                        Dune (BrothomStates).............Orange (8)  =
                        Muffler.............................DCS (4)  =
                        RevisQ............................Monar (3)  <
                        Scorpik...........................Pulse (3)  N
                        Mindwalker.....................Suburban (2)  <
                        Shad..............................Pulse (2)  <
                        Groo...............................CNCD (2)  <
                        Croaker...................TPOLM^Halcyon (2)  <
                        Necros...................Five Musicians (2)  >
                        Steffo.........................Cryonics (2)  >
                        CareBear...............Orange & Komplex (1)  <
                        Radix............................Groove (1)  <
                        Smash...........................Nothing (1)  <
                        Stereoman.........................Noise (1)  <
                        Zodiak..........................Cascada (1)  <
                        Hunz.....................Five Musicians (1)  <
                        Vim!...............................Mono (1)  <
                        Echo..........................Diffusion (1)  N
                        Jam............................Korozone (1)  N

        Graphics:       Made...............................Bomb (11) =
                        Lazur........................<no group> (10) =
                        Vizualize..................Pulse^Jamm R (9)  >
                        Ra................................NoooN (6)  <
                        Louie...................The Black Lotus (3)  =
                        Sunday..........................Nothing (3)  >
                        Cereal........................Ooze labs (2)  < 
                        Beast.........................Astroidea (2)  =
                        Hellfire........................Haujobb (2)  =
                        Kobold.........................Metaphor (1)  =
                        Rappid................................. (1)  =
                        Haplo.............................Pulse (1)  =
                        Jugi............................Komplex (1)  =
                        Danny.............................Eidos (1)  N


      ---------------
------| 13.Messages |----------------------------------------------------------
      ---------------


From: Psychic Symphony
To: All his friends
Content: I'm taking a small vacation to real life!
         Email ec97104@crazy.fe.up.pt
         Don't give szum a hard time now...


From: Psychic Symphony
To: Fleur staff
Content: I have an article for you guys... mail me to get it!
         ec97104@crazy.fe.up.pt


From: a0a / green
To: other greenies
Content: Jongens, krijgen jullie dit nu aan of niet ? :)


From: D-Lee/Exceed
To: All
Content: Hey people! In some weeks Christmas time! Send me some nice post-
         cards or surprises. =) Really. Here is my adress: Peter Vamosi,
         9700 Szombathely, Kodaly Zoltan u. 12./9/39. Hungary. Thanks.


From: Psychic Symphony   
To: D-lee/exceed
Content: Only if you send me a birthday card! 19 december!
         Filipe Cruz. Praceta Colegio de Gaia 140 3E. 4400 VN Gaia. Portugal.
         No birthday card for me... no xmas card for you! Eye for an eye!


From: D-Lee/Exceed
To: Spicces Girls
Content: Hi Girls! =) Ildi greets ya! I hope we will meet at Jumper'98!


From: D-Lee/Exceed
To: Sceners of Slovenia, Austria, Slovakia, Ukraine, Romania, Serbia and Croatia
Content: Hey people! Come and visit partys of hungary! We ever miss ya, and
         well we got a lot of party here. (Sometimes too lot.) If ya want to
         know the next date: www.scene-hu.com.
         We are waiting for other country people too!


From: D-Lee/Exceed
To: All
Content: Phonehead: Syrinx - this is what i want in MP3, or better the whole
         videoclip in AVI or MPG. Anyone got it?


From: D-Lee/Exceed
To: All
Content: Sorry that only pictures now avaiable at our homepage. We will do it
         later. But i hope the pictures fell you. =)


From: Aliens
To: D-Lee/Exceed (who invited an alien to join exceed)
Content: 1000001 1010011 1001011 0100000 1001101
         1010101 1001100 1000100 1000101 1010010 
         (decode hint: ascii rules the universe)


From: D-Lee/Exceed
To: Ezah/Dilemma
Content: I hope you are now out of the hospital. Do that fuckin' Fleur or
         you become problems. =)


From: Psychic Symphony
To: Ezah/Dilemma
Content: Me and D-Lee are setting up the 'killing ezah for no-fleur2'
         organization! Every money that comes to our vaults will be used
         to hire special wrestlers to kick the living shit out of you!
         Better hurry, our vaults are getting pretty filled up!


From: Melwyn 
To: HiRMU at Dreamhack '98
Content: Miksei funkki soi?


From: Nephoo/evolve
To: Psychic Symphony
Content: Nah... I dont want to back history... More important for me now
         is demo with Evolve.


From: Nephoo/evolve
To: Distance
Content: Remember me? You promised me a module...


From: Picard/Rhyme
To: D-Lee/Exceed 
Contect: you message flooder :)


From: Salami
To: All
Content: Send a mail to "daredevi@dorsai.org" that the pmw source will be
         released!!! don't let it die on his harddisk.


From: Psychic Symphony
To: Melwyn
Content: Best damn party report i ever read! U rule mate!


From: Cremax
To: Psychic
Content: what is a winter? i never seen snow in my whole life!


From: a0a
To: CreeP
Content: <!COMMENT!>Yes . . were all 'aving phun *<:-)<!/COMMENT!>


From: Behemot/ByteWay
To: All
Content: Check out ByteWay borntro
         (ftp://amber.bti.pl/scene/distro/byteway/borntro.rar)
        and support Wrotki magazine !


From: Behemot/ByteWay
To: Doctor_Q/ByteWay
Content: Get your ass and start working!


From: Behemot/ByteWay
To: Hyde/ByteWay
Content: Your new modules are kewl! Especially I like 'end of summer' very
         much.

From: Behemot/ByteWay
To: Fugaz/ByteWay
Content: Don't worry...

From: Behemot/ByteWay
To: Alpha/ByteWay
Content: I'm looking forward to getting your new ascii and ansii.


From: Behemot/ByteWay
To: Arson/ByteWay
Content: Maybe, you should contact me ?


From: Behemot/ByteWay
To: Azure/ByteWay^Dillema
Content: Wow! Our spelling mistakes rule :) Check out our borntro if you
         haven't done it yet.


From: Behemot/ByteWay
To: Banshik/ByteWay^Apatia
Content: No words for you...


From: Behemot/ByteWay
To: Khamoon/ByteWay^Tube27
Content: Keep up good work.


From: Behemot/ByteWay
To: Mash/ByteWay
Content: Surely, you're the most active member in BTW.


From: Behemot/ByteWay
To: Nytrik/ByteWay
Content: Wait for CD. Send me your all pictures...


From: Psychic Symphony
To: Behemot
Content: There's this thing called mailing list, you put inside lots of
         email addresses and then magically all people hear your messages!
         ;) Thx fro whole stuff anyways behemot, u rule!
         BTW: Sorry for no addies but new url policy is working! :( Need
         to chop down space, this is newsletter not diskmag! =)
         Send me a mail will ya? ec97104@crazy.fe.up.pt
         Oh! Don't send 100k files to szum next week or he will give up on
         trying to assemble demojournal when he starts reading your mail! ;)


From: Dildo
To: D-Lee/Exceed
Content: Nem  rtana m r ism't valami egetrenget"t kre lni. Csin lljunk demt
         h rom nap alatt! Majd valamelyik h'tv'g'n. Jumperre. Vagy mittom'n.


From: Psychic Symphony
To: MRZ
Content: Go back to that url and translate this:
         Recentes noticias: Esta confirmada a recente invasao hungara ao
         demojournal! Editor tenta desesperadamente parar hungaro de 3 letras
         que insiste em trazer mais e mais pessoas para esta mailing list!
         Ajuda! :)
         That should be fun!


From: Psychic Symphony
To: Nemesulku
Content: Haven't forgotten about you! On number 16 mate! Be patient!


From: Psychic Symphony
To: Brainpower/dawn3
Content: It's all your fault! Couldn't you have stopped me from buying a
         computer? GRRR...


From: Psychic Symphony
To: Distance
Content: Hope you enter the compo!


From: Psychic Symphony
To: DJamm
Content: Hope you enter the compo!


From: Psychic Symphony
To: Melwyn/Acid Rain
Content: Please e-mail latest stats.zip to szum, ASAP! <szum@kki.net.pl>


From: Psychic Symphony
To: Adok/Hugi
Content: Tell me one week before hugi#13 out ok? I wanna send you stuff!


      -----------------
------| 14.Demoscener |--------------------------------------------------------
      -----------------


        This is supposed to be a list of all currently active demosceners!
        Warn if there is something wrong or missing!

        PLEASE! Don't hesitate for one second to send me listings of people
who are active and not in here... This list is far from complete!
        Let's get one thing straight: I don't want to be told to go to some
url and get all names!!! I want ppl to send me small listings of friends
who aren't here. Got it? Good!


Name:            Country:     What:               Group:

216..............fi...........Code...............MFX
Aap..............nl...........Gfx................ACME
Abyss............fi..............................Future Crew
Access...........be..............................Pulpe
Acryl............de...........Gfx^Music..........Scoopex
Action........................Code...............Virtual Visions
Adok.............at...........Editor.............Hugi
aGi..............pl...........Gfx................INTerror
Alex.............fr...........Gfx................Melon
Alpha............pl...........Ascii^Coder........ByteWay
Andr0meda........be...........Code^Music.........Green
Andromeda........sw...........Music..............Noice
Angel............pl...........Gfx................Tatanka
Antony...........fr...........Gfx................Pulse
Apatia...........fi...........Gfx................COMA
Aquafresh........uk...........Music..............Dolphin
Aragorn..........it...........Code...............Chalice
Aron.............hu...........Code...............Contract
Arson............pl...........Music..............ByteWay^Cryogen^Anxiety
Asphyx...........fr...........Gfx................Vision
Assassin.........fi...........Swapper............Trauma
Assign...........de...........Music..............Ethos9^Tokyo Dawn
Astute...........fi...........Code...............Flo^Radio
Atom.............pl...........Swapper............Platoon
Atx..............hu...........Music..............Chrome^LabelZero
Aurelius.........de...........Code...............Matrix
Azure............sl...........Gfx................Dilemma^Byteway
Axl..............sw...........Code...............TPOLM^DC5^TEA
A-Move...........de...........Music..............Amable^Tokyo Dawn
Baloo............sw...........Gfx................Blocc
Balrog...........sw...........Music..............KFMF^TPOLM
Banshik..........pl...........Code^Gfx...........ByteWay
Barbatron........sw...........Code...............Syntax Terror
Barbecue.........dk...........Code...............Purple
Barog............uk...........Music..............Nothing
Bartesek.........pl...........Music..............<no group>
Baxter...........be...........Editor^Code^Music..Green
Behemot..........pl...........Organizer..........ByteWay
Bejrutt..........sw...........Gfx^Music..........Syntax Terror
Big Bear.........ch...........Music..............Fake That
Binar............pl...........Swapper^Ascii......Korozone^Chloride^VP
Bitcoder.........pt...........Code...............Radioactive Design
Blade............sp..............................The Utopians^Los Centoros
Bonnie...........fr...........Gfx................HCL
Borlot...........pl...........Code...............Majorca Team
Brainpower.......pt...........Code...............Dawn 3
Brainsaw.........nl..............................SuccesS
Brix.............hu...........Code...............Dilemma
Byter............dn...........3D^Gfx.............Blasphemy
Carebear.........fi...........Music..............Orange
Carlos...........hu...........Music..............Breeze^Mandula
Caveman..........fi..............................Coma
Case.............pl...........Swapper............Revelation^Fuse
Cheetah.......................Gfx................Ephidrena
Chronos..........hu...........Gfx................Dinasty
Clef.............au...........Music..............
Cliffhanger...................Code...............
Clifford M.......pl...........Gfx................ExMortis^MFX
Coderpaco........hu...........Music..............Dinasty
codersidha.......hu...........Gfx................Dinasty
Core-nick........pl...........Music..............Tatanka
Corona...........be...........Code...............Green
Corpse...........hu...........Gfx................Dinasty
Cortez...........pl...........Swapper............Omnicolour
CpC..............gr...........Code...............Demaniacs
Cranx............hu...........Code...............Rhyme
Cremax...........pt...........Code...............Nothing
Croaker..........fi...........Code^Music.........TPOLM
Crossbone........de...........Code...............Suburban Creations
!Cube............fi...........Music^Gfx^Code.....Trauma
Cyberfish........no...........Code...............The Lost Souls
Cyclone..........de...........Gfx................Abyss
Cyclops..........be...........Gfx................Fuel^Quad
Cyg..............fr...........Code...............BlaBla
Da C.C.Songwrita.de...........Music^Gfx..........CoPro
Dake.............ch...........Code...............Calodox
Damaq............fi...........Gfx................Doomsday
Damien...........be..............................Imphobia
Danube...........fr...........Gfx................HCL
Darkflare........pt...........Gfx................ActiveFuel
Darkness.........be...........Editor.............Imphobia
Dave.............sp...........Code...............Phymosys
Dave.............pl...........Music..............Haujobb
DC-1.............hu...........Swapper............<no group>
Deansdale........hu...........Music..............Exceed
Delirium.........pt...........Music..............ActiveFuel
Der Piipo........fi...........Gfx................Orange
Der Punkt........si...........Gfx................Dolphin
Deyi.............be...........Code...............Itsari
Dfj..............hu...........Music^Editor.......Dinasty
Diabolo..........fr...........Code...............HCL
Digisnap.........de...........Code...............Matrix
Digital pain.....hu...........Music..............Dinasty
Dildo............hu...........Code...............<no group>
Distance.........fi...........Music..............TPOLM^monotonik^lackluster
Dixan............it...........Music..............Chalice
Dizzy............ch...........Music..............
Djamm............fr...........Music..............Nomad^Bomb^Ribbon
D-lee............hu...........Editor.............Exceed
Doctor_Q.........pl...........Swapper............ByteWay^DRB^TPB
Dominei..........no...........Music..............Dolphin^INF
DreamDancer......de...........Gfx^Swapper........Nwo Wolfpack^Role
Dreamer..........fi...........Music..............Sublogic
Dreyer...........dk...........Music..............Blasphemy
Droid............fi...........Code...............Haujobb
Duet.............fi...........Code...............Embassy
Duncan...........fi..............................Damones
Dune.............fi...........Music..............Orange
Echo.............dk...........Code...............Fudge
Echo.............pl...........Music..............Diffusion
Eclipse..........fr...........Code^Editor........Knights^Lichty's Concept
Eggbird..........nl..............................Green
Ellyn............pl...........Gfx................ExMortis^MFX
Enok.............hu...........Gfx................Chrome
Euphoria.........au...........Gfx................f00d
Excel............fi...........Gfx................Trauma
Ez...............it...........Music..............Deathstar
Ezah.............hu...........Gfx^Editor.........Dilemma
Falcon...........pl...........Music..............Tokyo Dawn
Fatality.........fi...........Music..............Flo
Fear.............fi...........Code...............The Black Lotus^Dolphin
Feather..........fi...........Gfx................TPOLM
Filozof..........pl...........Ascii..............Konzept
Fitzroy..........pl...........Ascii..............Enenzi^The Loop
Flan.............fr...........Gfx................
Flex.............sw...........Code...............Blocc
Fndr.............sw...........Gfx^Code...........
Frame............sw...........Gfx................C-lous
Fred.............ch...........Gfx................Calodox
Fred.............pl...........Gfx................INTerror
Fred.............pl...........Swapper............Exodus^Samar
Fremen...........pl...........Coder..............Pengo
Fugaz............pl...........Coder^Music........ByteWay
Fustic...........pl...........Coder..............Platoon
Gandalf..........fr..............................Pulse
Ganja Man........uk...........Music..............LoK
Gardner..........pl...........Swapper............Flow
Garfield.........pl...........Editor.............Pengo^IPC^LO 2+7
Garfield.........pt...........Music^Code.........Radioactive Design
Garvin...........fi...........Code...............COMA
G-day............nl...........Music..............Quad
Generic..........hu...........Music..............Exact
Goblin...........au...........Code...............Xtatic
Gongo............be...........Code...............Green
Goofy............sw...........Editor.............Replay
Gooroo...........ca...........Code...............KFMF
Graff............pl...........Music..............Tatanka
Greenpix7........ru...........Gfx................Universe
Gtg..............pl...........Code...............Tatanka
Guille...........fr...........Code...............Cocoon
Gurdan...........fi...........Code...............Byterapers
Gyr..............au...........Code...............f00d
Hager............hu...........Swapper............Profuse
Hanx.............hu...........Music..............LabelZero
Harlequin........nl...........Gfx^Music..........SuccesS
Hate.............pl...........Swapper^Editor.....Prism^Core^Scream
HeY..............pl...........Code^Editor........Tatanka
Hoplite..........fi...........Code...............Orange
Htom.............hu..............................Dinasty
Hunz.............au...........Music..............Five Musicians
Hyde.............pl...........Music..............ByteWay
Hyp-X............hu...........Code...............Mandula
Idiotboy.........us...........Code...............Evolve
Illusion.........fi...........Music..............Doomsday^DCS
Incubus..........pl...........Code...............Prism
Infinite Reboot..be...........Code...............Fuel
Insane...........pl...........Gfx................Metaphor
Immortal.........pl...........Music..............Platoon
Imode............hawaii.......Music..............Exceed^Sound Devotion
Impexus..........pl...........Code...............Diffusion
Inopia........................Code...............Quad
Jabberwock.......hu...........Music^3D...........Dinasty
Jace.............nl...........Code...............The Black Lotus
J.Coburn v B.Lee.fi...........Code...............TPOLM
Java.............sw...........Gfx................Cryonics
Jaws.............no...........Code...............Proxima^TPOLM
Jax..............pl...........Music..............Korozone
Jim Goer.........pl...........Code...............Grinders
Jlt..............pl...........Code...............Omnicolour
Jmagic...........fi...........Code...............Complex
Jugi.............fi...........Music^Gfx..........Complex
K................sw...........Music..............TPOLM
Kakka............fi..............................Damones
Kal..............hu...........Gfx................Astroidea
Kal-Min-Do.......fr...........Music..............HCL
Kat..............pl...........Swapper............Metaphor
Kci..............hu...........3D.................Chrome
Keith303.........de...........Code...............Radical Rhythms^Tokyo Dawn
KeyG.............pl...........Music..............Calodox
Khamoon..........pl...........Code...............ByteWay^Tube27
Kidlove..........de...........Gfx................Haujobb
Kneebitter.......us...........Code...............Threesome
Knuddel..........ch...........Music..............
Koan.............pl...........Code...............Giraffe
Kobold...........pl...........Gfx................Metaphor
Kombat...........il...........Code...............Immortals
Kravitz..........fi...........Code...............Sublogic
Kurt.............be...........Code...............Green
Kvazar...........hu...........Music..............Euthanasia
Laban............fi...........Code...............The Black Lotus
Lando............pl...........Swapper............Konzept
Lazur............pl...........Gfx................<no group>
Lebeau/Legend....fi...........Music..............CNCD
Legend...........au...........Music..............The Vault
Lemming..........fi...........Editor.............Orange
Leo..............hu...........3D.................Euthanasia
Leto.............ch...........Code...............Calodox
Lexus............pl...........Editor.............Enenzi
Liam The Lemming.uk...........Music..............KFMF
Loke.............fi...........Music..............Radio
Loonie...........sw...........Music..............Analogue
Louie............sw...........Gfx................The Black Lotus
Lucky............pl...........Gfx................<no group>
Ludwig...........hu...........Gfx................Dinasty
Luk..............pl...........Music..............Procreation
Lunat............hu..............................Supreme
Made.............fr...........Gfx................Bomb
Maelcom..........us...........Music..............KFMF
Magnesium........au...........Code^Music.........LaTeX
Mandrixx.........fr...........Code...............
Manka............hu...........Music..............
Mantra...........fi...........3D^Ascii...........Flow
Marq..........................Code...............FiT
Marquis..........de...........Music^Swapper......Platoon
Marvel...........fi...........Gfx................Future Crew
Mash.............pl...........Code...............ByteWay
Masterboy........il...........Code...............Lynx^Wij
Max..............pl...........Gfx................Defect^Cryogen
McGurk...........fi..............................COMA
Melcom...........de...........Music^Code.........<no group>
Mellow-D.........be^fi........Music..............TPOLM^Five Musicians
Melwyn...........fi...........Music..............Acid Rain
Mentz............de...........Music..............LoK^Tokyo Dawn
Mercure..........fr...........Music..............
Micron...........fi..............................Byterapers
Mike.............fi...........Gfx................Byterapers
Mindwalker.......pt...........Music..............Suburban Creations
MirekCz..........pl...........Code...............Platoon
Misha............pl...........Gfx^Editor.........Tatanka^Defect^Nothing
Miss Saigon......us^fi........Music..............Threesome
Mistral..........fi...........Gfx................Byterapers
Mordicus.........fi...........Music..............Jamm R.
Mosh.............fi...........Music..............Forsaken
Mov..............fi..............................Radio
MRI..............fi...........Code...............Doomsday
Mr.Sex...........fi...........Code...............Byterapers
Mrz..............hu...........Code...............Astroidea
Muffler..........fi...........Music..............DCS
Murphy...........hu...........Code...............Exact
Myrel............hu...........Gfx................Astroidea
Mystical......................Music..............Purple
MZ...............au...........Code...............
NamNam...........sw...........Gfx................Blocc
Nap..............hu...........Code...............Dilemma
Neek.............gr...........Code...............Demaniacs
Nemesis1......................Music..............
Nemesulku........fi...........Gfx................Acid Rain
Nephoo...........pl...........Code...............Samar PC^Evolve
Nero.............de...........Gfx................Matrix
Net..............hu...........Coder..............Chrome
Nik..............be...........Gfx................Green
Nitro............fi...........Music..............Trauma
Nix...........................Code...............The Black Lotus
Nns..............hu...........Code...............Exceed
Nobody...........fi...........Music..............Wild Light
Nytrik...........fr...........Gfx................ByteWay^Fuel^Cocoon
Onyx.............us...........Code...............Dolphin
Optic............no...........Music..............Tokyo Dawn^TRSI
Orome............no...........Gfx................Astroidea
Paavi............fi..............................iSO
Pahladin.........no...........Gfx................TPOLM^Sublogic
Pancho...........pl...........Gfx................Platoon^IPC
Paniq............de...........Music..............Tokyo Dawn
Particle......................Gfx................
Patapom..........fr...........Code...............Bomb
Pazur............pl...........Gfx................Metaphor
Peachy...........de...........Gfx................Haujobb
Pearl Hunter.....................................The Utopians
Picard...........hu...........Code...............Rhyme
Pinias...........pl...........3D.................Platoon
Pitbull..........de...........Code...............Imphobia
Pixel............fi...........Gfx................Future Crew
PL...............be...........Gfx................Imphobia
Plash.........................Code...............Nothing^Azure
Primon...........fi..............................Radio
Probe............sw...........Music..............The Black Lotus^VD
Programmed.......pt...........Code...............ActiveFuel
Programmer.......ru...........Code^Editor........Universe
Psychic Symphony.pt...........Code...............Evolve^The Utopians^ActiveFuel
Pukmaxi..........dn...........3D^Music...........Blasphemy
Pyshtoff.........pl...........Code...............Tatanka
Quartz/Wally.....fi...........Code...............Chalice
Quasar...........be...........Code...............Green
Quaz.............fi...........Music..............Flo^pWp
Raiden...........pl...........Music..............Aural Planet
Radi.............pl...........Music^FTP..........INTerror
Radix............sw...........Music..............Groove
Rascy............hu...........3D.................Dilemma
Rastan...........pl...........Code...............ByteWay^Amnesty
Razorback........fi...........Gfx................Doomsday
React............hu...........Code...............Exceed
Rents............pt...........Gfx................Dawn 3
Repanse..........fi...........Music..............Flow
Reptile..........hu...........Music..............Astroidea
Rimo.............hu...........Code...............Euthanasia
Rod..............hu...........Code...............Mandula
Rodex............fi...........Code...............
Rodney...........sw...........Gfx................The Black Lotus
Rommel...........no...........Swapper............Revelation
Rzuck............pl...........3D.................Metaphor
Saffron..........fi...........Gfx................The Black Lotus^Dolphin
Sagacity.........nl...........Code...............Quad
Salami...........de...........Code...............Nothing
SamSam...........................................Quad
Sandworm.........pl...........Code...............Giraffe
Sarix............nl..............................Quad
Scorpio..........pt...........Code...............
Scorpik..........pl...........Music..............<no group>
Screamager.......lu^uk........Music..............KFMF
Sed..............hu...........Music..............Dilemma
Shade............hu...........Music..............Dilemma
Sharon...........de...........Code...............Matrix
Shaman...........hu...........Music^Ascii........Exceed
Shameless........dk...........Code...............Blasphemy
Shiva............de...........Code...............Kolor
Shock............au...........Code...............Xtatic^Dimension^Ramjam^Evolve
Shodan...........fr...........Music..............Skytech Crew^Arf!Studios
Shr..............hu..............................Mnemonic
Sidha............hu...........Gfx................Exact
Skal.............fr...........Code...............Bomb
Sketch...........pl...........Gfx................<no group>
Skin.............................................Quad
Skrig............dk...........Gfx................Prone
Sky..............de...........Gfx................Dolphin^Ethos9
Skyphos..........de...........Music..............Matrix
Simon King!......pl...........Ascii..............Procreation^Fuse
Sivu.............fi...........Code...............Byterapers
Sleve............pl...........Code...............Metaphor
Sly Spy..........hu...........Music..............United Force^Capana
Slyde............dk...........Code...............Blasphemy
Snowman..........us..............................Hornet
Smash............uk...........Music..............Nothing
Sol..............fi...........Code...............Trauma
SolarC...........fi...........Music..............Refinition
Soulless.........pl...........Gfx................Norferin
Spansh...........uk..............................
Spector..........fi...........Code...............Trauma
Spectre..........tu...........Code...............Flare
Spk..............pl...........Gfx^3D.............Omnicolour
Spy..............pl...........Code...............Poison
Stallion.........de...........Gfx................Absence^Dolphin
Steffo...........sw...........Music..............Cryonics
Stein............us..............................Night 55
Sub-Seru.........pl...........Code...............Giraffe
Sulphurik........pt...........Code...............ActiveFuel
Sulphur..........fi...........Music..............Orange
Sunday...........sw...........Gfx................Proxima^TPOLM
Sumaleth.........au...........Gfx................
Swan.............pl...........Music..............Platoon
Szoke............hu..............................Atomik
Szum.............pl...........Editor.............Cryogen
Tapeworm.........fi...........Code...............Acid Rain
Tbf..............fr...........Swapper............HCL
Teque............fi...........Music..............Trauma
The Update.......de...........Code...............CoPro
Thor.............sw...........Gfx................TPOLM^Dolphin
Thorax...........be...........Music..............Cryogenic
Thorin...........fr..............................Melon Dezign
Thorsten.........dk...........Gfx^Music..........Purple
Tiyo.............fi...........Music^Ascii........Flow
TJ...............sw...........Code...............Cryonics
Tmk..............nw^jp........Gfx^Code...........INF^Dolphin
Tonic............fi...........Gfx^Code...........Trauma
Tomac............de...........3D.................Suburban
Tomika...........hu...........Music..............Dinasty
Trajic...........hu...........Music..............Rhyme
Traymuss.........pl...........Music..............Giraffe
Tremens..........pl...........3D.................ByteWay
Tremor...........fi...........Code...............Trauma
Tristan..........il...........Music..............
Trixter..........us...........Code...............Hornet
Trueman..........hu...........Code...............Exact
Ts...............hawaii.......Gfx^Ascii..........Exceed
TSC..............hu...........Code...............Astroidea
Tudor.........................Gfx................The Black Lotus
TuO..............fr...........Code...............Skytech Team
Ubbe.............sw...........Code...............Cryonics
Ultra Brain......be...........Code...............Green
Unreal...........pl...........Code...............CNCD
Vain.............sw...........Code...............Cryonics
Vampire..........dk..............................Blasphemy
Vastator.........us...........Code...............NetGeneration
Vector...........us...........Code...............Vertigo
Vic..............nl...........Music..............ACME
Vim!.............uk...........Music..............Mono
Vipa.............dk...........Code...............Purple
Virne............fi...........Code...............COMA^Jamm R.
Visual...........pl...........Gfx................Omnicolour
Viznut...........fi...........Code^Music^Gfx.....pWp
Vizualize.....................Gfx................Pulse^Jamm R.
Void.............fi...........Code...............Trauma
Warpig...........hu...........Gfx^3D.............Exceed
Wave.............nl...........Music..............Maniacs of Noise
Wawa.............pt...........Code^Gfx...........Nothing
Weed.............fi...........Code...............Dolphin^Coral
Whizzter.........sw...........Code...............Woorlic
Willbe...........fr...........Music^Gfx..........Theralite
Wizard...........be...........Code...............Imphobia
Workbench........ch...........Music..............Calodox^Level-D
Wox..............sw...........Code...............The Black Lotus
Xerxes...........no...........Music..............Night 55
Xhyp.............fi...........Music..............Omnicolour
Xorbit...........be...........Code...............Green
Xtro.............hu...........Gfx................Rhyme
Y................be...........Gfx^Code...........Green
Yez..............pl...........Music..............Omnicolour
Yoghurt..........pl...........Code...............Poison
Yolque...........fi...........Music..............CNCD
Yuda.............pl...........Code...............Antidothum
Z................fr...........Code...............Nomad
Zalt.............sw...........Sysop..............ACME
Zenial...........pl...........Swapper^Music......Hypnotize^Palsecam
Zeno.............be...........3D.................Green
Zinn.............fi...........Code...............Flow
Zippy............no...........Code^Editor........Utopia
Zodiak...........sw...........Music..............Cascada
Zoltar...........pt...........Code...............<no group>
Zorlim...........fi...........Code...............NetGeneration
Zpider...........ch...........Code...............Calodox
Zsacul...........pl...........Code...............Norferin

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Open Music Contests
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Once upon a time, there was an irc channel called #demoscene on IRCnet, where
famous and less famous (hungarian scene) people gathered every night.... Some
of them thought: enough of talking, let's do something more creative!
And, because these people were mainly musicians, they came up with the idea of
an IRC-wide music competition! They named it TDSMC (The #DemoScene Music
Contest). Time passed, the contributions were in, although there were only
a few competitors (7). The winner was announced, and everything went back to
normal............

.........until those restless guys said: "Hey! The first one was fun, let's
have another one , but this time, make it harder! Let it be a REAL challange!"
So they decided: it's time for the first hungarian CHIPmusic compo! One of the
organizers put the samplepack together, uploaded it to an ftp-site
(demo.dyn.ml.org), and the contest had begun!

There were 14+1 contributions (one was disqualified because of using other
samples than the pack), and i can say, most of them are just COOOOOOOL!!!!!!
Most importantly, this time there were three foreign contributors (Optic/TRSI,
 dixan/RamJam and Imode/Exceed), and i think it shows that people DO
need these kind of "just for fun" competitions!

In my opinion, music competitions with restrictions are more challenging
and interesting than normal ones, so we're going to organize another one
in the near future.... If you're interested, or just want to share your
opinion, send a letter to reptile@scene-hu.com! I'm also looking forward
to getting any recommendations for the next compo.

You can reach us at the address mentioned above, or on IRCnet, #demoscene,
after 10pm CET.

reptile / astroidea

p.s.: these contests are NON PROFIT! There are no prizes, we made our tunes
for each other to share.


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Short stupid Dreamhack'98 report by steffo

        So after writing the exam in digital technnics on thursday I went home
and packed all my stuff, coded some on the demo, and called spruce. Well we
all were done packing and stuff, I and jonas took our bikes and went downtown
to get that minibuss we where hiring. It wasn't as big as we'd thought, so we
had to do some refurnituring in it, but it worked out ok. We started to drive
around to pick everybody up, we first went to Iceman/Noice place, where we
also met Evade/Obscure (almost in noice as well :)) and Hubble/Noice. They
seemed to be cool guys already then. which was nice.. sitting in a bus for 8
hours with boring people would suck. We picked Marwin/Noice and drove to my
house to get my stuff (somewhere in between we picked up spruce's stuff
aswell :)). Then we started driving! And Iceman started drinking (what a
bum :)) cider in the bus. But fortunately he didn't have that much with him.
*phew*. He could've gotten really annoying otherwise. When we had drove like.
maybe 1/4 of the way I started suspecting that I've forgotten my bag at home,
I had like all my clothes, cables, mouse and keyboard in. Spruce thought we
hadn't forgotten it, but he was wrong :) We stopped at my parents place and I
got some clothes and a keyboard there, and after ca another 25km's we stopped
to eat (YES! we'd been in the bus for four hours or so now!), Spruce's father
had made an excellent meal for the all of us, and we also picked up spruce's
little brother here (arvid) and met spruce's little sister (who had a cold I
think). We borrowed the toilet for a while and such things and then we started
heading for borlaenge again. The rest of the trip sucked :)

        When arriving in borlaenge, we stopped to ask where kupolen was, so
spruce ran out of the bus and asked some drunk guy, but we got the right
directions! (rock). We walked in. Me and evade got a bit suprised.. There was
a note by the entrance with a message to us :) It said "Evade & Steffo, go to
the infodesk, they'll know where I am / putteCRS" (that is Patrik/cryonics),
but of course it was written in swedish, swedish rocks for swedes. So we went
upstairs and met java/cryonics and deone/cryonics, they where drunk :) They
rocked bigtime, and then patrik came aswell, and the whole bunch of cryonics
and noice people met in our rocking v.i.p room that patrik had gotten for us.
He had to do a lot of fucking to get it, but it was worth it. In the viproom
gnilk/noice and andromeda/noice was sleeping at the time. atleast andromeda.
I bought some cables for my computer, and stole the rest from gnilk, and his
monitor (it rocked!) which was much bigger than mine. I plugged in my stereo
and everything, although playing loud in here was out of question, since the
crew's sleeping hall was just next to us. I worked on mine and spruce's demo
for a while, then I checked out the partyplace. lotsa people here.. And I met
loonie! he sure do rock, a cool guy he is! Nothing much happened, but the
next day (after some decent sleeping) the other crs+noc'ers decided to do a
"fucking borlaenge" demo, what can I say? rocknroll! So patrik borrowed, well,
after some more fucking, a digital camera, and started taking neat pictures.
Some girls wanted to borrow gnilks stereo, and that was fine with us, IF they
could say some neat stuff in a mic so that we could use it in the demo :) They
did. Rocking cool girls! We all finished our stuff, like music and graphic and
demos, and entered the compos, although the other guys had to fuck some
organizers to move the deadline for the democompo a bit. So. We went downtown
to drink some beer! First we went to a loosers place, just because there was
no people in the cue or anything, but this place sucked, we only bought one
beer there ;) Instead we went to another place and payed the entrance and
drank another beer, me, andromeda, marwin, hubble and evade hit the dancefloor
to show the borlaenge youths how it should be done! The didn't seem to
understand.. Some girl walked to me and asked if I was named "johan" or
something, don't remember, I said "no", she turned around and saw hubble. And
hugged him! They used to go to kindergarden together :) (hubble lives about
900km's from borlaenge or so). We went home and slept for a while. And oh
yeah, there was this nice organizergirl that we treated nice. Very nice. But
not in her opinion :) We said stupid things everytime she entered the room,
which was nice and fun and all that. Then I woke up to late, missed the 4chn
music compo and the first entries in the mchn compo. But atleast mine,
marwins and loonie's tunes where played. That was enough, and most of the
other tunes sucked, some booring goa and really bad stuff aswell. There where
like 6 decent tunes in that compo. The intro would've been quite cool if the
bigscreen would've been a bigscreen, the poor organizers didn't get the
projecter they first had been promised (shame on you, stupid sponsor!) and
therefor it sucked. You could not see anything less than 3 pixels wide, so
lotsa things was impossible to see, and the picture was really dark. This was
a really bad thing for virne/coma and ste&xt, since their intros didn't get
what they deserved. It was a good thing for noice's intro goatzilla though,
since it had really bright colors (good tactics gnilk!). They won the intro
compo :). Barbagubbe/woorlic came second. That intro sure rocked on the
bigscreen, we all laughed :) During the democompo quite a lot of crap was
shown, of course doomsdays demo was good (their last demo btw!), but they
didn't show fucking borlaenge or vinyl! (vinyi=the demo I and spruce made).
We ran away to the compocrew for some decent yelling. They said that the
demos didn't work on their compomachine, then we said "Then you should've
told us!". But we fixed the problem and recorded the demos on tape, but the
compo was over and everybody was back by their own computers, so when
showing those demos (and a third one) noone was watching. A shame, but that's
life. The wild compo was kinda fun, "the lost princess" rocked! it was like a
old movie, without sound and only music. And echo off's "nerdlife" was quite
cool, but not far as cool as "remedy memories" and "echo off vs dreamhack"
(from last year) was. They rocked! I'm getting tired of writing now, so I'll
skip to the price ceremony. The finns rocked the price ceremony! the finns
rocked the whole party! They were like, 20 finns :) And they all went up to
the stage together each time some of them was called, so virne got called for
his 64k intro, doomsday was for their demo (they won, of course), and some
other guys for his tune. I placed 2nd in the mchn compo, yaay! The compocrew
was kinda sucky though. They didn't CHOOSE tunes, they picked them randomly.
yikes. But still, cryonics and noice had a great time together at the party,
so it was fun and all that, I'll probably go '99 as well :)

/Steffo


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                               Dreamhack '98
                                    -
              Party of the Year (no thanks to organizers)


Pre-words?

        I just had to write this party report. You know (I truly
wish you know), there are parties and parties but sometimes a
party remains in your memories as something special. I'm keen to
believe that I will remember Dreamhack '98 after a long time very
well - in a positive way. This report is only my point of view
and I've surely already forgotten something because so many
things happened during the party. But let's get now into the
business...


Going to the party:

        I started my party trip early in the thursdaymorning. I
had to drive all across Finland 'cause I live quite near Russia
in Eastern Finland (and Sweden, where Dreamhack was held is west
from Finland - in case you didn't know). My first stop was at
Kouvola after 350 km of driving where I was supposed to fetch
Virne / COMA. When I arrived there he was still compiling his
intro for the party and I was a bit worried about being late for
our schedule. After hitting the road again the weather started to
get ugly and near Helsinki (the capital of Finland, you
uncivilized morons! :) it was raining so hard that we had to
drive almost crawling speed in the motorway.

        In Helsinki we were still late and had some fearsome
minutes in the railwaystation where we had to catch Duet /
Embassy but didn't see the man anywhere. Luckily we found him. We
also fetched SolarC / Refinition in western part of Helsinki.
After that we drove to Turku and got there actually half an hour
before our ferry (m/s Isabella) left the harbour. Lemming /
Orange who was the last man coming to our car had already come
there by train.

        In the ferry we did the most reasonable thing that one
could do by going to the Tax-Free shop. But at the pay-desk the
terrible truth stroke us. One had to be over 20 years old to buy
beer! Oh, we were disappointed and angry. I think Virne was not
satisfied as well because he was the only one in our car being
over 20 and that fact lead to another one: He had to buy
everything to us others. Sometimes it's just too mean to be so
young.

        The others stayed in the cabin when I, Virne and Lemming
decided to go to the bar. After drinking a beer or two and
watching awful Irish dancers (no offence, you Irish ones) Virne
left to cabin as well. One funny thing in that was that I and
Lemming were the only one having a driving license and also the
only one deciding to continue partying... But after three 58
years old women sit into our table and tried to seduce us we
considered leaving the bar as a very good option. :) We headed
upstairs into disco inferno. There were loads of under 18 years
old sweet teens and some older guys trying to ruin their night.
In some point the organizers drove all the people away because
there was so many under-aged, I think. A rather good gesture,
which got us to go into cabin before we were too drunk (to drive
next day).

        In the morning we had to wake up definitely too early.
The ferry arrived 6.45 am. at Stockholm and we had still 250 km
left to drive to Borlnge, where the party was held. You know,
Stockholm is quite a big city and I've had my driving license
just a year so it wasn't too comfortable to drive there for the
first time. We got lost at first and wandered at the wrong
direction. After finding the right path and heading back to the
centrum it was already rush hour and I think we could have
travelled faster by walking through the city than we did in the
endless line of cars.

        Our next stop was at Uppsala, which is Sweden's most
popular student city, I think. It was still quite early and
finding a decent place where we could eat wasn't an easy job.
(Actually only place opening at 9 am. was McDonalds :) We ended
up going to a grocery store and buying some breakfast there.
After a rather messy moment with our cheese, pastes and crispy
breads we cleared our minds in a local cathedral which is
more or less indescribable in many ways. You have to experience
it yourself. (Like trying to translate our party slogan into
English: It was cool - and we dig everything which is cool).


The very first day:

        We arrived Borlnge early in the afternoon. The other
Finnish sceners were already there waiting for us. We listened to
some 70's porno funk and disco (Saturday Night Fever and Bee
Gees) and had our own little party outside the party hall.
Nothing special happened but as it was getting darker the
temperature of the air lowered quite rapidly. But getting in
wasn't an easy job anymore while we all were more or less under
influence of alcohol. The organizers weren't too friendly as
well, they throwed eg. Duet out to the cold with only t-shirt on.
But for some reason they also thought that I was sober and let me
in. We did some research with Virne and some secret back door
passages and elevators which were not locked. It wasn't too hard
to find a way to one of the back doors and open it for all the
others. It was just too bad that the alarm went on while our
little rescue trip. :) The guys had found some key which perhaps
something to do with the alarm, I don't know how we had activated
it actually. The last room before the party hall was sleeping
hall but just when we came to there a door opened and an
organizer also walked in sleeping room. Others pretended
sleeping, I just escaped to the party hall and crawled under a
table for watching some demos on the screen.

        In some point I saw Thor / TPOLM and joined his company
but soon the organizers found me and took me to the separate
space where almost all the other Finns were already. We were told
that we couldn't leave this place until tomorrow or all of us
would have been kicked out. Okay, we stayed in our little
Funky-Jail for that night and continued partying there. Damaq /
Doomsday was throwing up blood but explained that there was
nothing to worry about...


Saturday Night Fever:

        I woke up in a terrible nausea, I just wonder why. Well,
the others left to the city at the morning and continued against
my headache and throwing reactions. In some point I met Beathawk
and we basicly hang around all the day together. At 9 am. the 4ch
music competition started. It was nothing else but crap.
Beathawk's song was played, SolarC's not. He went to the
organizers to complain about it directly and I went to bathroom
because of my nausea. When coming back I heard that the
multichannel music compo had started and they were playing my
module. Cool! But what the fuck? Wasn't it playing all wrong?
What was that shit coming out of the loudspeakers?!? Then I
knew the reason: They were playing the modules with Gravis
Ultrasound with hardware mixing. Fucking idiots! They had 2Mb
size limit in the compo and they were playing the modules only
with 1Mb of RAM. I complained about it and the organizers just
said: "Oh, we didn't realize that, we're sorry." Well, my only
consolation was that there were some about five other modules
which were fucked up as well. :)

        Being a bit upset because of the lame music compos we
just sat in the cafeteria and waited for the intro compo which
started at 1 pm. The competition was late but it finally started
- with Bel Wazoo which Psychic Symphony had given to me for to
deliver to the party. The intro was accidentally shown under the
name of Acid Rain, I hope PS wont kill me because of that.. The
second intro was something cool, Bird-cage by Jamm R. But the
organizers had fucked up again and the projector had so slim
contrast and blurry picture that one couldn't see the intro well.
In overall there were only five intros and only Jamm's intro was
decent. A really lame compo, again.

        Then after a couple of hours it was time for the demo
compos. The organizers tried to fix the problem with big screen
but the picture didn't get any better. Only three Amiga demos
were shown, nothing special in that compo, in PC demo compo the
first entry was Keskeytetty Yhdynta by Damones and it was
actually quite funny. Then a couple of crap demos and Doomsday's
Off. I really liked Doomsday's demo though Damaq didn't like it
at all.. A very good fairwell demo at least, it's just a shame
they are quitting now the scene.

        After the compos we started to get quite wild again spent
some time in our funky jail (voluntarily!). There were some
swedish girls having Helloween party. Real cute ones actually..
There were some Jussi Bjrling show (striptease dancing) in the
city, I don't know if someone went there or not, 'cause I got
quite tired in some point and had got cold last night. We made
few little notes reading "HiRMU will get you!" and "Vote for us or
we will kill you!" and wandered in the party hall spreading these
notes and trying to make people understand which contributions
were worth of voting. It didn't work well, most of the people
didn't even have a votekey. Heck, what you can expect from a 1800
people party where 20% tops is going to vote? Well, I got really
tired and went to a real sleeping hall this time to get some
rest.


Sunday, heading back to home:

        In the morning all the people were lost. Some of them
were in the funky jail and nothing happened. McGurk / COMA had
made several paper birds and had gave some of them to the female
organizers. I tried to make one of those myself and succeeded
after 20 minutes of hard wrestling with my fingers and brains. I
just wonder how boring McGurk and others must have had, if they
made tiny paper birds all night long. :)

        When the prize ceremony finally began (late as usual) we
had gathered all our noisy people near to the stage having all
kind of wicked plans. Damaq wasn't feeling very well and had one
McDonalds bag in his hands ready to puke in it, but in the plan
we thought how neat it would've been if he had puked in the stage
while picking the prize. (Well, he didn't puke at all, if I
remember right...) It went actually quite well with us. Both
Beathawk's tunes weren't in top three, but I got second prize.
When Virne left to pick Jamm's prize we all followed him dancing
and playing 70's disco funk as loud as we could with our little
casette player. When Embassy won the Amiga demo competition, we
did the same again. And when Doomsday won the PC demo competition
we all jumped to the stage and started to.. striptease! Well, we
throwed only our t-shirts off, but the feeling was wild and the
audience liked our little show, I think. A rather decent feeling,
yes. :)

        Damaq was a bit disappointed. He didn't got any money but
a P2 computer. So right after the prize ceremonies we got back on
the stage and had our own auction. We borrowed organizers
microphone so we could play our funk from the big loudspekers and
attract people better (Lemming has a real talent as a salesman).
Some guys who had won some network stuff sponsored by Cisco
Systems tried to get rid of them as well.

        Finally the party was over and we were ready to head back
Stockholm. Nothing special happened during the trip back there,
we got lost only four times if I recall right. :) When we had got
inside the ferry we all were tired, shitty and had our own kind
of after-party feelings. We (I, Lemming, Virne and Razorback /
Doomsday) decided to go sauna. And what a brilliant choice:
Hardly no one else was in the sauna (there's always someone if
there are Finns on board), warm bubble bath was there just for us
and when we had bought cold ciders and sat in the bath feeling
heavenly relaxed and good, I think there couldn't be any better
way to be. Afterward, feeling faint and still good, we considered
having something to eat a necessity that we couldn't miss. We ate
in a Bar-B-Que restaurant chicken and beefs, drank some wine and
ordered some cappucino afterwards feeling very different from
what we had been a couple of last days. And then there's five
guys sitting next to us and talking about Quake!

        I was once again too tired and next morning my cold had
gotten just worse. Driving back to home through the Finland
wasn't an easy job. Especially the last 350 kilometers without
any company, feeling tired again, driving in the dark and so on..
Just imagine. But at last, late in the monday evening I was home,
having probably the best party of the year behind.

melwyn/acid rain


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                             ABORT '98 PARTY


                  Abort '98 Party Official Invitation Text   
                        Held in Ljubljana/Slovenia
 	                 On the 12th of December


           http://gw2.s-gimb.lj.edus.si/~abort98/ (check it out)
                                
      
  ABORT98                                 
                                    
                                            
                                            
                                               
                                              
                                       
                                           
    

                  Organized by Septic Productions & Others
                     Contact address: Spi98@hotmail.com
                   Text version: 1.10 (20. October 98)
                   
                        

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INDEX: 

0. CHANGES
1. OPENING WORDS
2. WHERE and WHEN?
3. MAIN ORGANIZERS & SPONSORS
4. ENTRANCE FEES & RESERVATIONS
5. COMPETITIONS
6. VOTING SYSTEM
7. PRIZES
8. OFFICIAL PARTY T-SHIRTS
9. HOW TO GET TO THE PARTY PLACE
10. CONTACT INFORMATION & FUTURE UPDATES

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0.CHANGES
Final date is known: 12th December!
Voting system is decided (check section 6)
Special hacking compo will be held (if interest ...)

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1.OPENING WORDS
WE ARE BACK!
Last year Abort succeeded, more than 50 people showed up.  now we are back and 
we are going to make it even better.

The scene has changed quite a bit since last year. Some groups have died, 
some new have popped up, some people have left the scene, others are just
getting involved. But no matter what happens, the scene goes on and that is
what matters!
After Abort97 this scene can call itself demo scene - first slovenian demos
were presented at the party and they were quite good, but there is still a lot of
space for improvements. Moreover we don't need to tell you that musicians 
are really on the strike. More and more of them are making better and better 
pieces of music that deserves to be listened to.

That's the way to go!
What we need is more fun, friendship and connection in the scene! 

So... Lets make the ANOTHER DEMO PARTY! Lets make Abort '98!

And what is a demo party?
A demo party is an event (party), when computer (art) enthusiasts come 
together, INTERACT, exchange IDEAS & knowledge, have a lot of FUN and COMPETE!

Everyone and every group shows what he/she/it has done. Shows its demo, 
music and graphics and watch other people's artwork!
You don't need to make any artwork that would compete with others, but it would
be very nice of you if you did it!

We hope we will be able to organiZe future Aborts (99,2000...), but this will 
only be possible if you show up at the party & participate in the competitions!

This is a NON-COMMERCIAL event, all the income after paying bills will be spent
on prizes!

STAY TUNED FOR MORE DETAILED VERSION OF THIS INVITATION!

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2. WHERE and WHEN?

The Abort '98 will be held on the 12th December in Ljubljana/Slovenia 
at gallery Kapelica on Kersnikova 4, Ljubljana. (that is the same 
building as last year, but the place has changed) 
The party place will open around 12:00am and close sometime next morning!

Address: Gallery Kapelica
         Kersnikova street 4
         Ljubljana
         Slovenia

Check the section 9. for more information on how to get there!
Stay tuned for further versions of this invitation (in case of any changes).

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3. MAIN ORGANIZERS & SPONSORS

         The main organizers, sorted in alphabetical order:
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         Real Name:             alias/group           
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	 Damjan Cvetko          Zobo/Septic Productions
         Blaz Novak             Bjt/
         Andraz Tori            MinMax/Septic Productions
         Primoz Verdnik         Demmas/X-seed
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         Thanks to Twilight Connection & Krokar (SPi) for making invitation 
         intro, music etc.
         Thanks to X-seed for other help (t-shirt design...).

         We are also grateful to everyone that expressed different ideas, 
         viewpoints and told us that what we are doing is good thing. :)

         We would also like to kill everyone else, but that can wait... :)          

         Sponsors:         
             none yet

         We hope we will get some, so we can give some nice prizes!
         
         If you have any good ideas about the party, tell us, we will gladly
         listen to them & if they are good, use them!
         Remember, this is YOUR party too!

         Contact E-mail address is Spi98@hotmail.com or you can find us 
         often on IRC on irc-net in channel #scene.si!

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4. ENTRANCE FEES & RESERVATIONS

No entrance fee is planned.
You'll get your table, electricity & access to voting computer(if there will 
be one) for free (but you have to report you are coming)!
You have to bring SAFE cables for the electricity with you, network 
equipment is welcomed too.
The non-alcoholic drinks will be sold all the time!

Because there is a limited space available, you HAVE TO report you are coming
to Spi98@hotmail.com, if you don't, it may happen, you won't get the table to
put your computer and other equipment on!

We would like to encourage you to bring your computer with you. Computers are
very important part of the party, if you don't have one with you, you won't be
able to show your work to your friends and have other fun during 'free' time.
Don't forget to bring network cards & cables with you!
Also electronic voting will be much easier if you'll have your own computer.

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5. COMPETITIONS

There will be some standard competitions and some special ones (surprise!).
Because there is almost no interest in Amiga, Commodore & other compos, 
we will only held PC compos. If you have done your artwork on any other 
platform, you'll have to bring all necessary hardware with you if you want to 
show it to other people. If there will be enough interest in any other 
competition that is not described below, we will make additional compos! 

Every member can participate with ONE artwork in each competition.
In demo competition every group can have as many entries as it wants. 

Entries must not be shown on any other party/competition before.

Anything received after deadline, won't be competing, but it will be
shown. There will be a deadline countdown!

If there won't be enough entries for the competition, they will be showed
/played, but they won't compete!

If there will be too many entries in competition, organizers will make
a pre-selection to lower the number of entries to reasonable amount. We will 
do it the best way we can but nobody is perfect. (preselection is expected in 
music competition)

You'll have the opportunity to test your demo TWO TIMES on compo computer. 
If there will be too much interest in this, we don't know if it will be 
actually possible. But don't come just before deadline! 

By competing in any of Abort98 competitions you agree that WITHOUT your
written permission following is true:
Your artwork contributed to Abort98 is free for distribution over all types of
media as long as it hasn't been changed in any way.
Your artwork contributed to Abort98 can be used by Septic Productions for
promotional use in sense of Internet, BBSes and CD-release distribution even if
CD-release is charged.
Your artwork contributed to Abort98 can be publicly shown all/any the time 
during the event including exhibition and post-event promotions.

By this rules we will be able to promote the party in proper way!
Also the organizers have right to remove any entry from the competition, 
if they think it is not suitable.



Now back to the party organization...

The party PC that will run everything:
Processor:     Pentium II 300Mhz
Video card:    One of ATI cards (fast enough)
RAM:           At least 32Mb 
Sound card:    SoundBlaster AWE 64
Projector:     ?? The maximum supported resolutions are 640x480x16M & 
               800x600x256! Higher resolutions will probably result in an ugly 
               picture!

The configuration is not finalized yet, watch out for further versions of this
invitation text!

Available system configuration will include full VBE 2.0 support!
It will be possible to run Win95 demos too.
Players used the for music compos: latest version of Cubic Player and 
Impulse Tracker!


 * PC DEMO COMPETITION
    -maximum size 4194304 bytes 
    -it should run trough a batch file called START.BAT
    -pure animation files not accepted
    -maximum base memory requirement is 540Kb
    -maximum memory requirement is 16Mb
    -if it crashes, it is NOT showed again, but can still compete
    -maximum 15 minutes

 * PC 64Kb INTRO COMPETITION
    -all that was said for demo compo +
    -maximum size 65536 bytes
    -maximum 5 minutes
    -chances for this compo to take place are not good, if there won't be 
     enough entries, it will be merged with the PC DEMO COMPO
      
  * MUSIC COMPETITION
    -there will be 2 or 3 sub compos in music competition 
    -any format that is supported under latest Cubic Player by pascal or
     Impulse Tracker except MPEG & WAV (clear sound files not accepted)
    -maximum 4 minutes playing time, after that it will be faded out

  * GRAPHICS COMPETITION
    -max. 640x480x16M 
    -viewer will be .... ? 
    -accepted formats: PCX, LBM, GIF, BMP, JPG
    -You must add 3 significative steps of making the picture
    -picture mustn't be used anytime before in any compo, except on Abort '98
  
  * RAYTRACE GRAPHICS COMPETITION
    -all rules like for the graphics compo except it has to be made in one of
     raytracing programs
    -3 steps of constructing must be added! (not different types of shading!)

  * It is possible that both graphic competitions will be merged!

  * ANSI/ASCII COMPETITION
    -max 80x200 ANSI/ASCII
    -it has to be made for 80x25 or 80x50 mode
    -will be shown with latest ANSIDRAW 
    -no animation

  * WILD THING 
    -anything allowed 
    -bring ALL NECESSARY equipment with you (VCRs, Lightshows... :)

  * SURPRISE COMPOS
    -be prepared for everything :)

  * SPECIAL 'HACKING' COMPO
    -try to break into the voting system...
    -some texts about how voting will work will be released, your job is
     to tell us what is the secret message (mail to spi98@hotmail.com 
     for detailed description of what this compo will be)

Please include information about every product in product.nfo file!

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6. VOTING SYSTEM

There will be local TCP network organized at the party (Bjt is in charge of
this).
There will be http (web) server available with voting program in Java...
You will be able to vote from all machines connected to local network 
(yours for example) and from dedicated machines (for those who won't bring
their computer with them).

Every person will get his username and password on entrance (He'll 
have to have personal ID or some other kind of identification) 


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7. PRIZES

We don't know if there will be any money for prizes left, and if we will 
get more sponsors, so we can't promise anything!
But if there will be prizes, they will be given to the winners at the end 
of the party.
We expect to give out symbolic prizes only..
Anyway...
Scene's not for money & other prizes!
IT'S FOR FUN, FAME AND GLORY

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8. OFFICIAL PARTY T-SHIRTS

There will be a limited number of T-shirts available. 
They'll have nice Abort98 logos on them.
Because we don't know how many we will sell, you have to reserve some 
for you and your friends to get them for sure, write to Spi98@hotmail.com. 

They will be sold at the price of 1000SIT (7 USD)!
The price is not fixed, we don't know exactly how much they'll cost!

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9. HOW TO GET TO THE PARTY PLACE

Scanned pictures of Ljubljana/Center (K4, main train station, main bus station,
main roads) can be found at this URL:
http://gw2.s-gimb.lj.edus.si/~abort98/

Party place is only about 600m away from main train/bus station.
If your are arriving to that station, we can send someone there and he'll
guide you to the party place (contact us on Spi98@hotmail.com for this
option)


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10. CONTACT INFORMATION & FUTURE UPDATES

E-mail: Spi98@hotmail.com
WWW:    http://gw2.s-gimb.lj.edus.si/~abort98/
BBS:    Digital Force

          STAY TUNED FOR MORE DETAILED VERSION OF THIS INVITATION



                             MIND OVER MATTER
                            THE ART OVER MIND,
                        AND FREEDOM OVER EVERYTHING


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SATELLITE '98 Official Results PC
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PC Demo:
1. "Cystic Fibrosis" Neurogen
2. "People" Pengo
3. "Drill" Defect

PC 4k Intro:
1. "Trace Your Mind 2" Suspend
2. "Global Warming" Vardin/Ind
3. "Emphasis" Toxic Karrotz
4. "Rose" Antidothum

PC 64k Intro:
1. "Front Page" Suspend
2. "Transform" Dimension
   "Overflow" Korozone [turn down - VESA 24 bit problems]

Any questions send to (only PC compos):
VIP@rubikon.net.pl
0501144157
ICQ: 5669071

Party organizer contact:
madbart@opnt.optimus.wroc.pl
0601534875
ICQ: 16255810

Full results sheet will be post later on the appendix website,
feel free to check up this:
http://APPENDIX.ml.org


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        Demojournal compo#2:

        Subject: this time it's a chip-tune compo!

        Objective: Do a Simpsons tune remix below 32k!
                   mod,s3m,xm or it modes are supported! No compression!
                   32k uncompressed size limit!

        Competing: Do your tune with whatever sample and instruments you come
                   across, really doesn't matter! The tune must clearly have
                   the simpsons tune in there somewhere... How it sounds is
                   up to you.

        Deadline: Send your entry until december 1st to this mail:
                  ec97104@crazy.fe.up.pt subject: compo#2 entry

        Judging: I will judge the tunes based down mainly on originality!
                 Any entry will be disqualified if:
                 -Exceeds 32k limit uncompressed!
                 -Doesn't have the simpsons tune basics in-built!

        Prizes: None whatsoever! Do it for the fun!

        Results: Will be announced asap! After december 1st!

        Releases: The whole entries will be released together on the normal
                  scene ftp's so look sharp for demo98c2.zip!

        Final word: Hope i gave you a motive to track!

                        Psychic Symphony


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        This is it! 13th demojournal finished! I think this is one of the best
issues ever! Member list grew a lot! Awesome interview, lots of articles and
info. Hope you all enjoyed it!
        As i already said in the begining, i'm taking a break to the real life
for a couple of weeks, szum/cryogen will be taking over so please don't give
him a hard time! Don't flood the account a lot and don't send any zip/rar/lha
archives since they need to be forwarded to another mail for download!
        See you all in a couple of weeks!

                        Psychic Symphony - ec97104@crazy.fe.up.pt
        
        Send stuff for next issue to:

                        demojournal@hotmail.com
