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          Check out the charts.. and the quote of the week if you want some
        controversy.
                                                                           ps

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        Dialogos 99 pictures can be found at:
        http://www.legart.dk/dialogos99
        http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cfsl/dialogos.tar.gz

        Simon V.  - "Screwdriver" [06.07 - 5750k]
        (mono211.mp3.rel.13) - released on 03/10/99.
        .scorching.analogue.steppah.experience.
        ftp://ftp.support.nl/pub/mono/mp3/sv-scr.mp3

        Virt fans should check Trax in Space coz he's the hero this month.


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starts !=! ends !===! location !===! name !=========! contact !================


Aug 27 - Aug 29, 1999 France    LTP 3               http://ltp.planet-d.net
Sep 03 - Sep 05, 1999 Poland    Gravity#4           http://www.anadune.optimus.wroc.pl/gravity
Sep 03 - Sep 05, 1999 France    RTS Party 2000-1    http://RTS-PartY.imag.fr
Sep 03 - Sep 05, 1999 Holland   Bizzare '99         http://bizzare.nl
Sep 05 - Sep 07, 1999 Sweden    The Demoparty '99   http://www.demoparty.com
Sep 10 - Sep 12, 1999 Sweden    Regal '99           http://regal.amphibic.com
Sep 24 - Sep 26, 1999 Poland    Horizon '99         http://www.horizon.siec.pl
Sep 25 - Sep 26, 1999 Portugal  Mira Amiga '99      http://www.surf.to/paug
Sep 26 - Sep 28, 1999 Hungary   Rage-Scenest '99    http://scenest.scene-hu.com
Sep 30 - Oct 03, 1999 Norway    Distance '99        http://www.neutralzone.org/distance
Oct 01 - Oct 03, 1999 Germany   Dialogos '99        http://www.dialogos.cc
Oct 08 - Oct 10, 1999 Sweden    The Feeling '99     http://www.thefeeling.net
Oct 09 - Oct 11, 1999 Spain     Arroutada Party 7   http://www.arroutada.ddns.org


=========! present time !======================================================


Oct 14 - Oct 17, 1999 Norway    Norvegia '99        http://www.neutralzone.org/norvegia/norvegia99
Oct 30 - Nov 01, 1999 France    Central Party '99   http://www.chez.com/centralparty

Nov 04 - Nov 07, 1999 Sweden    Dreamhack '99       http://www.dreamhack.org
Nov 05 - Nov 07, 1999 Argentina The Flash '99       http://www.theflashparty.com.ar/
Nov 13 - Nov 15, 1999 Hungary   Conference 3000
Nov 19 - Nov 21, 1999 Germany   Breed '99           http://www.alienpub.com/breed/99
Nov ?? - Nov ??, 1999 Germany   Cologne Conf. '99   http://www.academicus.de/cc98

Dec 13 - Dec 15, 1999 Slovenia  Abort '99
Dec 13 - Dec 15, 1999 Holland   ST News ICCC 2000   http://www.scriba.org/stnicc2000
Dec 27 - Dec 28, 1999 Romania   Dracula '99
Dec 27 - Dec 30, 1999 Denmark   The Party 9         http://www.theparty.dk

Mar 31 - Apr 02, 2000 Finland   Rendezvous 01       http://rendezvous.stc.cx

Apr 19 - Apr 23, 2000 Norway    The Gathering 1900

May 06 - May 07, 2000 Russia    Parodox 2000        http://eltes.info-don.ru/kirr
May 26 - May 28, 2000 Germany   Radwar Party 2000   http://www.radwar.com

Nov ?? - Nov ??, 2000 France    Millenium Party 2K
??? ?? - ??? ??, 2000 USA       Bang! 2000          http://www.scene.org/bang!
??? ?? - ??? ??, 2000 Belgium   Inscene 2000        http://www.inscene.com
??? ?? - ??? ??, 2000 Australia Covern 2000         http://www.coven2000.com


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=====! interview !=============================================================

        *** sunday has joined #demojournal

        <|ps|> hello! so who are you? :)

        <sunday> you mean i should know?

        <|ps|> i guess so! didnt they tell you who you were when you where
               first born?

        <sunday> i think they forgot.. and they never told me during even if
                 they actually tried in weird ways
                 umm :)
                 so, where do we start?

        <|ps|> what do you do on the scene? whats your real name, how old,
               shoe size..

        <sunday> I do what people tell me to do, never the less i still dont
                 seem to do it :) Oh and yes its graphics i usually do.
                 my name would be Martin Andersson.. and aged 25
                 Are you going to censor anything? =)

        <|ps|> when did you first started getting interested on the scene?

        <sunday> I can hardly remember.. At first i think i came to see some
                 demos on a friends amiga back in 90-91 and then on pc at
                 home somewhere in 91-92..  And first getting activly
                 involved when joining a local group called DPS around 93..
                 and going to TCC
                 Ive been using paintprograms on PC since the mid 80ties
                 tho. programs like Graphics in a box and Dr halo and then
                 dpaint. (which i still use alot)

        <|ps|> where do you get inspiration for your pics?

        <sunday> Well, my main inspiration for the actual painting part is
                 more towards techniques of different kinds, things in what
                 you see what makes things look good. that can come from
                 anywhere but its more obvious what looks good if you look
                 at others work ofcourse. My motives comes from within
                 myself which is a rather hard part to explain. I can try
                 narrowing it down to seeking out situations that are
                 interesting or communicates a feeling.
                 Inspiration in the way of motivation i get from seeing what
                 other people create.. in different forms. (thats what
                 usually get me going as i rarely get myself going :)

        <|ps|> well.. what are your main influences then? :)

        <sunday> that would be visualize mainly i think (scenewise) i really
                 like the feeling in his pics and he's got a lovely
                 technique aswell
                 painters outside the computer arena are way too many to
                 name.. :)

        <|ps|> ok.. so you said you started on amiga, how has your scene
               career developed?

        <sunday> No, i never owned an amiga or a c64 or anything like it..
                 Its been a messy career, ive been joining alot of groups
                 but i never quitted them. they went dead on me instead :)
                 If you want specific names then its in joining order: DPS,
                 Mistery, Proxima, Tpolm, Nothing, Obscure and others i was
                 involved in but never joined :) (i hope i didnt forget any)

        <|ps|> ok.. dinner break now? :)

        <sunday> yes please!

        Session Close: Sun Sep 26 19:22:18 1999

        Session Start: Mon Oct 04 22:07:06 1999

        <|ps|> what parties did you attended? and which ones were the
               best/worst?

        <sunday> I like to think that old times were the best ofcourse,
                 when the parties consisted of devoted people :) Nowadays
                 its hard to find, so the smaller parties are taking over
                 the role as real sceneparties.. i dont want to name any
                 particular parties :)

        <|ps|> oh cammon, dont be a bad guy! name some :)

        <sunday> Actually no party has been a completely crappy.. but think
                 im going to TP this year again so there's my chance

        <|ps|> hehehehe :) what is the best memory you have from past times
               on the scene? or some of the best..

        <sunday> That would be the discovering of the scene, going to my
                 first big parties and seeing all the glamour :D TCC'93
                 still sticks out as one of the best and most memorable of
                 all parties ive been to.

        <|ps|> ok, time for quick questions...
               1) whats your favorite color?

        <sunday> uqakak
                 black

        <|ps|> 2) what is the capital of madagascar?

        <sunday> ! do i have time to fetch a map?

        <|ps|> no :)

        <sunday> do you really want to know?

        <|ps|> i already know :P its antananarivo :) you should know too

        <sunday> ok, then you dont need to know it again next!

        <|ps|> 3) whats the velocity of the light speed

        <sunday> C goddammit! next

        <|ps|> 4) whats a moomin?

        <sunday> fat white blob (forgive me)

        <|ps|> 5) how many possible combinations can we get on a 320*240*16
               res?

        <sunday> argh..

        <|ps|> cammon!! mind calc! :) you should know these things

        <sunday> dont ask me mathematical questions..

        <|ps|> :) what is the secret to your technique? do you have any or
               is it just pixels where they seem nice?

        <sunday> ok hey wait.. i just calculated that i have  4915200000
                 pictures to draw before i die :)

        <|ps|> ehehe

        <sunday> its not much so where the pixels are its more a thing of
                 streching out from the screen to fool the brain :)

        <|ps|> stretching out from the screen?

        <sunday> i like to tickle the brain. it doesnt always mean beauty :)

        <|ps|> what is your favorite pixel to date?

        <sunday> the one i never painted :))
                 I hope im avoiding your questions in a correct manner?

        <|ps|> what are your favorite coder/musician/gfxians?

        <sunday> You know what.. i never liked filling out the diskmag forms!

        <|ps|> :P so what happened to you to get you on this mood? :)

        <sunday> I had a discussion with someone who didnt want to listen =)
                 im sorry, ill try.. ill try
                 Anyway, what admire within all categories are creativity
                 and feeling, ok to some extent also skill :D unreal,
                 hoplite, zden and statix belong there and dune,md and umm
                 many others :) graphicians i admire are ra, visualize and
                 lazur. (keeping it short. there are plenty others)

        <|ps|> whats your favorite demo and intro?

        <sunday> give me some time :)

        * |ps| offers sunday one big chunk of time

        <sunday> this is just not possible :)

        <|ps|> you dont have any favorites?

        <sunday> if i am even going to name a few its going to be a huge
                 list.. they all have something special

        <|ps|> go right ahead! what do i care about size.. :)

        <sunday> paper,jizz,stash,crash,bash :)

        <|ps|> crash bash? :P

        <sunday> never heard of them? thats your problem :D

        <|ps|> crash and bash? to tell the truth no i havent..

        <sunday> whenever you find them tell me. id like to see them
                 aswell :)

        <|ps|> :P what about demos?

        <sunday> 303, hyperventilation, plastik,comastuff.. fudgestuff,
                 matrixstuff. you know :)
                 oh and latest bombs are nice

        <|ps|> is design same thing as style?

        <sunday> partly i guess. design are the details. style is wholeness
                 of the design

        <|ps|> nice definition :) do you have a pet?

        <sunday> sometimes :) no details

        <|ps|> well.. i guess we are done :P have some wise words for your
               fans?

        <sunday> nope :) they are already lost beyond hope

        <|ps|> where can ppl see your pics and stuff? :)

        <sunday> the hidden place is: http://w1.506.telia.com/~u50602283/

        <|ps|> well.. thank you for your time sunday :)
               hope you get better from your bad day :)

        <sunday> thanks alot pal!!!!  a goodnight!
                 im glad to be of service
                 pssst.. is this thing on??

        <|ps|> ssssssssssqqqqqqquuuuuuuueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkk
               ;)

        Session Close: Mon Oct 04 23:19:03 1999


=====! demo !==================================================================

        Synaps 0-12 by Cocoon (party-version)
        Found at www.scene.org
        2nd place at LPT3

        System requirements:
          Windows, 18 Meg HD (yes, 18!). 8 Meg zipped, available at
        scene.org as either a single zip or several disk-size ARJ-files.

        The demo:
          In the textfile they said they wanted to give this demo a
        techno-touch, but they couldn't do it without the dark and hopeless
        feeling (well at least that's what I think they mean, as it's full
        of intentional pselling errors). If you've seen other Cocoon-prods,
        you know what to expect: long rides through hi-tech tunnels and
        rooms filled with scary objects, with overlays of pics and text
        blurred in one direction on top of it. The serial-killer 3D-head and
        the lightning-emitting eyes will probably give you a Shad1-dejavu.
        I would have liked fewer rooms and some more objects, like those
        awesome techno-wasps. Just a camera flying is rather boring. Also
        the textures have a lot of contrast, which makes them rather blocky
        in the low-res mode. The pictures are one of the best points of this
        demo. Full-screen pixeled gfx, just the way we like them. The theme
        must have been "Weird heads": two (supposed) criminals with insane
        big grins, a man with either a VR-helmet or something more
        dangerous, a blurred, almost skull-like face merging with stairs,...
        The style of overly blurred, unreadable messages has changed in favor
        of short slogans (Replicate life/Do not think/Live for consumption)
        in flyer-design-style: each word has a different place, size and
        orientation, with blurred lines and circles connecting them.

        The music:
          It's indeed rather techno, but it has far more variation than the
        average techno-tune. It starts with a voice-sample, something about
        researchers that have developed something, and then goes into a very
        nice mainpart with lots of different catchy drumlines and enough
        strange samples to justify the 3.4 MB filesize. At the end, it stops
        suddenly, then continues with a fadeout at the last part. Probably
        because it has to load that last part, and maybe this doesn't happen
        if you have more memory available. I like the music a lot, it
        complements the demo perfectly.

        Worth the download ?
          If we talk about downloading, we talk about size, and Cocoon has
        the bad habit of creating HUGE demos. 8 MB zipped, that's about as
        much as two normal demos unzipped, and 18 MB unzipped makes me wonder
        whether LPT3 had a filesize-limit or not. Also there is no
        library-file, just over 150 files in 14 subdirectories. That gives
        you a chance to watch all pictures, which is nice, as some are only
        used for env-mapping, and deserve to be seen fully. But what did I
        notice? There's a overlay with an angle, and the words fly/fly/fly/
        falling down appearing on it. Guess what? There are 5 complete
        screens used for that, instead of just the background and a few
        small pics of the separate words. That's halve a MB of HD and memory
        space wasted! (For a 4K-intro coder, that seems a horrible crime :))
        I really hope they make a final that's more space-efficient, maybe
        storing the pics in GIF or PNG-format, as TGA does 0 compression.
        Leaving the size-ranting aside and focussing on the artistic side,
        it's a nice demo, if you like their style. Nothing really new, but
        there are a few subtle things that you'll like. Fe, when I saw the
        credits on little 3D boards sticking out a large rotating column,
        I thought "not AGAIN", until I noticed that only the profession was
        shown on the boards, and the handles of the authors were overlayed
        at the moment a certain board pointed in your direction. Not 100%
        new, but at least a bit original. BTW, you can choose between
        windowed and fullscreen, but there's a very obvious bug in the
        windowed-version: the size of title-bar is included in the 320*240
        window, and as a result, the lowest 1/10th of the screen is lost.
        So, should you get this ? If you're a Cocoon-fan or the long DL-time
        doesn't scare you, go for it. Others may prefer to wait for the
        final, or skip it if 3D is not your style.
                                                                        Seven

        [editor: i don't think there is a final since they are already
                 rumoured to have started working on a new demo but..
                 keep the faith :)]


=====! intro !=================================================================

        g-cube remix with a spotlamp by matrix, not the film.

          the winner of dialogos 99, and we (exceed) especially waited it
        becouse they intro is presenting am idiotic jumping spotlamp, what
        we want to do since hm... mekka 98? :) (the original idea had pixar
        studios around 1986 i think, but who cares. ;)) hopefully our works
        premier will be at TP99.

          back to intro. i like the music inside, made by muffler. i
        like the jumparound too. and the 3d technique they use is still
        amazing. the sound system by digisnap is making a carrier: in every
        second intros at dialogos you can hear it. :) in few words that's all
        what this intro, and the most favourite films democrew show us. :)

          and watchout for the football match between hungary and portugal!
        :) if hungary wins, i d-lee make an euro party tour 2ooo, that was
        the deal with the lovely editor of this nice electronical weekly
        magazine.

          if portugal wins or draw, ps must get some money in the future,
        because he will come again. (aaaaahhh mammma help, i had a bad
        dream with a portuguese... )

        [editor: actually i wanted to make him come if hungary won not lost..
                 but something happened.. i should really stop betting :P]

          d-lee @ szombathely (means "saturday place city" ... better than the
        city of townsville ;))


=====! music !=================================================================

	Agent Zed
	Laxity / Vibrants
	scene.org/.../Lax-azed.zip (mp3) - a bit more than 3MB

	   I'm happy to say that a lot of great music came out during last 
	weeks. We've got here again an acid jazz tune, this time by Laxity,
	who has already proved to be a great tracker and this one belongs
	to his best. Compared to Smash's jazz tunes is this one more
	synth-based, main instruments are piano and organ based and in some
	parts play in the background strings. That influences the mood of 
	the song and differs it from others. You'll enjoy it if you like
	jazz. And if you don't, I'm sorry for you.


	Broken promise (mp3 of course)
	Simon V (Vivid)
	mp3.com/simonv
	1999

	  Simon V offers on the mp3.com music from his album One night. I've 
	downloaded 3 songs from it and even when the other two are very good,
	this one has something specific what makes it special and 100% worth 
	listening.
	  Track is introduced with sea sounds - but not a simple recording of 
	some stupid gulls. Harp plays the melody of the tops of the waves 
	which move with the strings. Into this atmosphere plays a drumline 
	and goes to fadeout. Here comes the guitar and synth sounds together
	with another drumline to join into the main theme of this great tune. 
	In this	part are the most important the side sounds, which sometimes 
	imitate style of other real instruments, sometimes play on their own. 
	Number of the instruments is wide and they overlap each other. That 
	gives an interesting, full and alternating sound. The tune passes and
	slowly moves to it's end introducing more sounds and leaves in you 
	beautifully strange feeling.
	  If you want to know, the other tunes I've downloaded are "Hymnus" 
	which is #1 in dnb charts at mp3.com and "Pulse code".


	Little Sandra, Don't You Cry (mp3)
	Keith303 / TDR
        www.tdr.scene.org -> #124
	1999

	  Most played tracked song for more than a week (at my home of course).
	It was beaten only by soundtrack of The Matrix. Get both :)


=====! quote !=================================================================

        "Have fun couting the votes."
                                                                         adok

        [editor: reading this after going through your votesheet that was
                 more with commments then with votes is rather sarcastic.
                 Next time instead of big bable about your problems just name
                 the 5 best.. thats what was asked.. and when you dont wanna
                 vote you just dont vote.. leave it blank you know... you
                 dont HAVE to force the votecounter to read 8 lines of
                 mambojambo to arrive at the conclusion that you werent going
                 to vote. And btw, as this is a scene newsletter when i mean
                 top 5 its implicit that they are sceners. Game musicians
                 might be very elite and cool musicians but if they never
                 released a track for the scene i dont see how they can be
                 considered sceners...
                 I just wonder how the hell do you run a diskmag with
                 charts and cant even fillout a fucking votesheet..
                 im sorry if i sound rash but counting votes and stumbling
                 upon this sort of things makes me sick, one thing is to
                 not know well the scene and vote little or skip some
                 category.. I can understand that some people don't know
                 the scene well or have gone abit innactive but making fun
                 of the votecounter IS NOT nice!
                 I know that i'm going to get flammed for this comment about
                 you but i don't give a shit!]


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	Shodan...............................http://shodan.skytech.org
	Skal..................................http://skal.planet-d.net
	Spell.........................http://www.ThePentagon.com/Spell
	Splif..............................http://splif.aegis-corp.org
        TheREW..............................http://home.wxs.nl/~therew
        Traven..............................http://traven.planet-d.net
	TS................................http://www2.hawaii.edu/~myee
        Tuo.....................................http://tuo.skytech.org
        Unlock...........................http://www.profzone.ch/unlock
        Vivid..................................http://vivid.kosmic.org
	Wain.............http://zevs.ifi.ntnu.no/~frankwer/gfx/gfx.htm
	Willbe...................................http://willbe.cjb.net
        Zden....................................http://message.sk/zden

        Others:
        
        Arf!Studios..........................http://www.arfstudios.org
        Calodox demolinks exchange.....http://calodox.planet-d.net/cde
        Chiptune...............................http://www.chiptune.com
        #coders..................................http://coderz.cjb.net
        Comic Pirates.........................http://scene-central.com
        Demo fanclub........................http://jerware.org/fanclub
        Digital Undergrounds.....................http://dug.iscool.net
        Dreams2 CD.........................http://nl.scene.org/dreams2
        Freax...................http://freax.scene-hu.com/mainmenu.htm
        GfxZone.................................http://www.gfxzone.org
        Hugi size-compo...............http://home.pages.de/~hugi-compo
        Orange Juice.........................http://ojuice.citeweb.net
	PC-demos explained.....http://www.oldskool.org/demos/explained
	Pixel...................................http://pixel.scene.org
 <*>    Scenet....................................http://www.scenet.de
        Swiss......................http://www.profzone.ch/vantage/list
        TakeOver................................http://www.takeover.nl
        Textmode Demo Archive.................http://tmda.planet-d.net
        Hungarian scene page...................http://www.scene-hu.com
        Trebel...................................http://www.trebel.org
        Zen of Tracking.........................http://surf.to/the-imm

        Diskmags:

        Amber...............................http://amber.bti.pl/di_mag
        Amnesia...............http://amnesia-dist.future.easyspace.com
	Demojournal....................http://demojournal.planet-d.net
        Fleur................................http://fleur.scene-hu.com
	Heroin...................................http://www.heroin.net
        Hugi........................http://home.pages.de/~hugidownload
 <*>    Pain........................,,,,,,....http://pain.planet-d.net
        Static Line......................http://www.ic.l7.net/statline
	Total Disaster...................http://www.totaldisaster.w.pl
	TUHB.......................................http://www.tuhb.org

        Ftps:

	Amber.......................................ftp://amber.bti.pl
	Cyberbox.....................................ftp://cyberbox.de
        Flerp............<new files listed>.......ftp://flerp.scene.hu
	Scene.org........<new files listed>........ftp://ftp.scene.org
	Skynet archive.................ftp://acid2.stack.nl/pub/skynet
	ACiD2 Archive.............................ftp://acid2.stack.nl


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Dialogos results 0.9


PC Demo Competition (13 entries) 

          1: china by kolor - 126
          2: frauen pausenlosII by pmf -118
          3: hifi8032 by smashpc feat. teklords - 108
          4: spacerelations by tnt - 48		
          5: spirit of wolf by mairsil&dark/kip - 47
          6: project2501.avi by teklords - 31
             newkids on the net by alien prophets - 31
          8: pixel.exe by xsolution (windows-demo) - 28
          9: da phlow by digital underground - 22
         10: little l by qute & scale - 21
         11: mortumage by TUM - 15
         12: director by lightzone - 12
         13: antz in the pants by boonecrew - 8

PC 64k Intro (6 entries) 

          1: luxo by matrix - 231
          2: montana by kolor - 189
          3: squad by quad - 154
          4: subsonic by twilight - 64
          5: dream by vantage - 12
          6: corny by real.fake - 9

PC 4k Intro (4 entries) 

          2: rotationshyperparaboloid by muhmac^freestyle - 137
          4: 16:9 by numb - 117
          1: mythosis by nextempire - 74
          3: duck 4k by tarzeau^carrots - 52

Multichannel Music (13 entries) 

          1: votecheat by kritix - 152 
          2: tihany express by manka & velvet - 82
          3: vterchen's Mondfahrt by skyrunner - 76
          4: informators by benjam - 66
          5: sushi for two by netpoet - 35
          6: cold firestorm by dolby - 34
          7: battle for survival by digistorm - 33
          8: 31337 by herr weltschaft - 31
          9: tomorrow by kenny beltrey - 29
         10: last loop by looza - 28
         11: cool haze by dark - 25
         12: champagne by wayfinder - 21
         13: desk by heman - 18

Fourchannel Music (6 entries) 

          1: downtown by velvet & a-move - 144 
          2: difference between noise and music by ronny - 85 
          3: stuck in phases by netpoet - 71 
          4: blondgefrbte turbobrte by skyrunner - 63
          5: groovy feelings by heman - 60
          6: smash the square by bent^byte - 49

Pixel Graphics (10 entries) 

          1: flowergirl by fake - 132
          2: the girl from ipanema by critikill - 98
          3: the end by mymique - 37
          4: second from surface by saffron - 36
          5: the atomic bird of silence by gordian.b - 30
          6: vorfreude by cp - 29
          7: pilsener - 26
          8: ich krieg aber noch wechselgeld by laizy - 25
          9: stony pinball by tonic - 13
         10: no time for hell by khtulu - 1

Raytrace Graphics (11 entries) 

          1: walkman by mha^vector illusion - 120 - I
          2: berlin by amoc - 114 - II
          3: fernsehzimnmer by syntic^teklords - 95 - III
          4: minidisc by ruben^litewerx - 83
          5: monday morning by duke - 35
          6: usa sucks by dough - 31
          7: recursion by oak^bionfx - 29
          8: melitasat by mbb^tum - 26
          9: - 21
         10: art of confusion by firimar - 15
         11: - 17
         12: underground grove by mad/os^real.fake - 6

Wild Compo (3 entries) 

          3: static motion 2 by litetwerx - 184
          1: searching for GUT by laxity - 133
          2: emil grnbar by pete pee - 37

Suprise Code (4 entries) 

          1: raster fuck by tnt (alex wenger) 
          2: alpha particles by alpha^citavia 
          3: partycle systems by unik 
          4: zzzun.exe by quazz^noxius 


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                                    Charts


        Top coders of all times

        Statix.....................................................76
        Unreal.....................................................49
        Jmagic.....................................................27
        Mrock......................................................16
        Picard.....................................................15
        Skal.......................................................15
        Nix........................................................14
        Psi........................................................12
        Hoplite....................................................11
        Mr. sex.....................................................9
        Hellfire....................................................8
        Virne.......................................................8
        Camel.......................................................8
        Barti!......................................................6
        Laxity......................................................6
        Rod.........................................................5
        Reptile.....................................................5
        Slyde.......................................................5
        Mr H........................................................5
        Zden........................................................5
        Digisnap....................................................4
        Blitz.......................................................3
        Mri.........................................................3
        Echo........................................................3
        Dune........................................................2

        36 other coders did not get more then 1 person's vote..


        Top musicians of all times

        BrothomStates (aka dune)...................................42
        Purple Motion..............................................38
        Falcon.....................................................28
        Scorpik....................................................20
        Groo.......................................................20
        MD (aka Mellow-d)..........................................18
        Necros.....................................................18
        Dizzy......................................................15
        Skaven.....................................................13
        Radix......................................................13
        Muffler....................................................11
        Croaker....................................................10
        Hunz........................................................9
        Jugi........................................................9
        Distance....................................................8
        Moby........................................................7
        Jester......................................................6
        Jogeir......................................................6
        Nitro.......................................................5
        WAVE........................................................5
        Keith303....................................................5
        Elwood......................................................5
        Krii........................................................4
        Smash.......................................................4
        Lizardking..................................................4
        Heatbeat....................................................4
        Basehead....................................................4
        Yolk........................................................2
        Zodiak......................................................2
        Traven......................................................2

        34 other musicians did not get more then 1 person's vote..


        Top active graphicians

        Made.......................................................89
        Visualize..................................................67
        Lazur......................................................32
        Haplo......................................................19
        TMK........................................................17
        Warpig.....................................................12
        Nytrik.....................................................11
        Enok.......................................................10
        Flood.......................................................9
        Cyclone.....................................................8
        Nero........................................................8
        Feather.....................................................7
        Los.........................................................6
        Grass.......................................................3
        Antony......................................................2
        Saffron.....................................................2
        Filler (aka xtro)...........................................2
        Thor........................................................2
        Xman........................................................2

        32 other considered active graphicians did not get over 1 vote..


        Top no longer active graphicians

        Ra.........................................................63
        Danny......................................................24
        Derpiipo...................................................19
        Haplo......................................................19
        Lazur......................................................19
        Louie......................................................12
        Cougar.....................................................12
        Rendall....................................................12
        Reward......................................................8
        Antony......................................................6
        Peachy......................................................5
        Niko........................................................5
        Destop......................................................4
        Thor........................................................4
        Facet.......................................................2

        26 other considered not active graphicians did not get over 1 vote..

        [editor: this has raised a very interesting question, are haplo,
                 lazur, thor and antony considered active or innactive?]


        Top demos released before the party 7

        Second Reality.............................................55
        303........................................................26
        Starts! Wonders of the world...............................25
        Inside.....................................................23
        Secret life of Mr.Black....................................15
        Saint......................................................12
        Paimen.....................................................11
        Machine Madness............................................10
        Boost......................................................10
        Crystal Dreams 2............................................9
        Sunflower...................................................8
        Hardwired...................................................7
        Dope........................................................7
        Timezone +13:00.............................................7
        Megablast...................................................6
        CNCD vs Orange..............................................5
        Show........................................................4
        Contrast....................................................4
        Supertelevision.............................................3
        No..........................................................3

        27 other demos released before the party 7 did not get over 1 vote..


        Top demos after tp7

        The Fulcrum................................................31
        Zilog......................................................28
        State of Mind..............................................27
        Square.....................................................26
        Moral Hard Candy...........................................26
        Wonder.....................................................19
        Tribes.....................................................17
        Hyperventilation...........................................15
        73 millionseconds..........................................13
        Sexadelic..................................................10
        Louis Lane..................................................8
        Sunflower...................................................8
        Plastik.....................................................7
        303.........................................................7
        Kkowboy.....................................................7
        Contour.....................................................6
        Dis.........................................................5
        Gateways....................................................5
        No Exit.....................................................3

        19 other demos released after the party 7 did not get over 1 vote..

        [editor: sunflower and 303 were released at gravity97 and
                 x97 respectably... Before tp7 that is.. Just to let
                 the masses know...]


        Top intros of all times

        Hplus......................................................41
        Stash......................................................37
        Jizz.......................................................29
        Bakkslide 7................................................24
        Paper......................................................19
        Gcube......................................................10
        Discloned...................................................9
        Clone meets clone...........................................9
        Deesbab.....................................................8
        Mesha.......................................................8
        Gamma.......................................................8
        Nation zero 2...............................................7
        Sink........................................................7
        Pager 11....................................................5
        Void 3......................................................5
        Blind.......................................................5
        Bjoer.......................................................4
        Sea robot of love...........................................4
        Nation zero.................................................4
        Viagra......................................................4
        Luxo........................................................4
        Bring it back...............................................3
        Slumpism....................................................3

        21 other intros did not get over 1 vote..


        Top diskmags/newsletters of all times

        Imphobia...................................................53
        Hugi.......................................................49
        Shine......................................................22
        Daskmig....................................................17
        Demo news..................................................14
        Fleur......................................................13
        Splash.....................................................10
        Pain........................................................9
        RAW.........................................................8
        Yahoo.......................................................7
        Bad news....................................................7
        Pulse.......................................................4
        Cfxnews.....................................................2

        11 other diskmags/newsletters did not get over 1 vote..

        [editor: i have removed demojournal from this category simply
                 because it is biased by the fact that the votes come
                 from people who read it and thus it would be beneficiated
                 or whatever it is spelled..]


        Top chipmusic trackers of all times

        Rez........................................................24
        Radix......................................................24
        Heatbeat...................................................12
        Dune.......................................................10
        Loonie......................................................5
        Groo........................................................4
        Spaceman....................................................4
        Lizardking..................................................3

        13 other chip musicians did not get over 1 vote..


          Thank you to the following people who got the time and patience
        to vote, in order of response they are: Programmer, willbe, DJefke,
        distance, attack, 3daddict, Gekko, makke, melwyn, thor, wishbone,
        baloo, mosh, adok, dlee , Nick Dinges, snlrg, cruxius, cp, knos,
        cremax, saffron, therew, szoke, gassy, Bitnik, a0a, tryhuk, remage,
        ir, szum and virne. That makes 31 retrieved votes in less then 7
        days.
          I hope this big fucking work i had of counting the votes has been
        of some interest..
        

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